270WSM vs 300WSM vs 7mm Rem Mag

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Hey guys,
Just curious to see what everyone's thoughts on these two 'wizzums' and which might be a better choice if one was gonna buy a new WSM. I'm thinkin it would be used for a mix of deer, sheep, elk, and the odd moose. Is it worth the step up to 300 or will the 270WSM do the trick well enough?
How does the 300WSM handle deer? Is it too much for deer? I've used my 30.06 plenty, and I know its just one step up, just dont want to be 'overgunned' in the case of deer.
Lets hear your opinions guys.....what would be your choice? I own a 30.06 but dont shoot it much as I dont like the gun. The cartridge is great though. I also have just bought a 25-06 that my wife will carry. I'm just lookin for a good all-around gun that is flat shooting and hard hitting.
So? Lets hear what you'd pick....
 
I have been shooting a 300WM for a long time. So in 2004, I got a Tikka T3 LS 270WSM. What a dream to shoot with 140gr. Accubonds. My fiance then, now wife took over the rifle, so I bought another for me.

As to the performance of the 270WSM on big game in Alberta- its a Performer. I personally doubted this caliber at first for elk, but after seeing the first year with the wife shooting her cow elk and the fatherinlaw with his elk that year - all 1 shot kills...I started to believe. I personally shot my cow elk this past season with my 270WSM- 200m dropped dead. And now with the new Winchester Supreme Elite XP3 in 150gr for the 270WSM, watch out animals, though the 140gr Accubond works wonders too.

I love my 300WM Sako m75ss with 180gr Accubonds for everything, but the 270WSM found a place in my heart and I have no problems saying it will perform on elk, mose, big WT and mulies, sheep.

I would say, if you want a caliber with a bigger selection of bullet size, go with the 300WSM. I personally think the 180gr bullet for this caliber is the ultimate for it. If a guy wants more velocity, use the 150gr Accubond or XP3 for sheep and deer.

I personally don't think a 300wsm is overgunned for deer. A few years back I shot a very large bodied mulie buck with my 300WM with 180gr PG's. Both shots were in the vitals, but he just stood there, then walked off to the edge of the field, layed down, but did not expire for a few more minutes. Our deer here in western Canada are very large an tough.

My view when I purchased my Sako 300 with 180gr bullets, was when I'm out for the elk, but if you see a large trophy buck, your good to go.

Overall, shot placement is the key, especially when shooting smaller calibers at large game, but you know this already...lol. A 300WSM may help out on a poor shot placement with the larger bullets and higher energy.
If you like, I can email you the pics of my 270WSM's. Let me know.
Good luck in your choice, either way 270WSM or 300WSM, I think you would be happy.
 
I shot 5 deer with my 300 WSM last year. Of course you are overgunned for deer, but any of the above is overgunned. I made a longish offhand shot at a buck on the last day just before dark, spined him, turned about 6 inches of spine to a gooey powder, then blew through a 3-4 inch spruce about 15 ft behind. The bullet was a 168 gr tsx. Powerful, recoil is manageble, my Browning is accurate, great calibre.
 
I don't think there is such a thing as being overgunned. I have hunted Alberta with a .264 Win Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 Weatherby Mag and a .338 Lapua Mag and all have performed brilliantly! I have taken moose with the .264 and antelope with the .338 so when it comes to performing on Alberta game they will all work very well.

I am partial to the .30 cals myself. The recoil is easily managable, bullet selection is great for high BC hunting bullets and they can send bullets a long way with good accuracy. My second choice would probably be a 7mm of some sort mabey a 7WSM or 7STW.

Bottom line is it is personal preferance but I would opt for a .30 cal.

Good Luck


Ivo
 
I'm thinkin it would be used for a mix of deer, sheep, elk, and the odd moose. Is it worth the step up to 300 or will the 270WSM do the trick well enough?
I would go with the 270WSM for that scenario... lots of energy, flat shooting and modest recoil.
 
I'd go with the 300WSM

aint much ya cant do with a 180 gr. @ 2950 fps, and the recoil isnt too bad

if you only hunted deer and sheep, the 270WSM would be a good choice, but for elk and moose, I'd prefer the 30 cal
 
I would have ton say that the 270WSM would be my pick I personally have both I use the 300WSM for Moose and Elk and Grizz and the 270WSM for everything else.
Take care SCI Canada
 
I would not count any of them out, they are all cartridges that will do the job with the right bullet selection for the right game, which is very easy to do with modern bullet technology of today. They all have great horse power and these calibers have proven them selve time and time again from Jacky O's (reg) old 270 to E. Kieths fame to the 600 yards mule deer kill with the old 300 wm.
And who am I well just a hunter like all of you on this board that favours the 7mm caliber over both!
Sure the old times did not have the new WSM to play with but the proved the calibers with less horsepower.
 
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TB,
Yea......I probably should be hanging on to it....I think everyone has to sell at least one really nice gun to realize what NOT to do in the future...lol. I guess just lookin for a change of pace and possibly workin on a project that is my very own creation......scary thought!
 
talk to a gunsmith and see how much it would cost to turn your 284 into 7wsm (rechamber/open boltface)

a 23" 7wsm should be able to push a 160 to 2900 fps or a bit more, although a 284 will do 2700 fps or so...hardly worth the gains...
 
Darnit Tod.....you're not supposed to be makin me feel so bad for sellin this gun!!! Possibly the foresight of a wedding, house buying, etc has just got me scared of $$ right now.....maybe just sell a kidney or something and I'd be better off instead.....
 
you got a great rifle in your hands now. Like said on 24 hr., going down in rifle quality to go up in cartridge size isnt something I would do.

your 284, properly loaded with a premium 140-150 gr. bullet, will tackle anything up to and including grizzly bears. If you think more impact energy will make up for bullet placement and bullet construction, you're going to be starting on the never ending chase for the big game rifle, probably ending back to a 270/280/30-06, with a hurt shoulder and a cut eyebrow, and receipts for a $2000 378 Weatherby haunting you forever.

if'n you want to ditch that 284 for cheap, shoot me a PM, I could 'help' you out ;) :rolleyes:
 
LOL....ya I dont want to get rid of it 'cheap' unfortunatly.....

I really dont know that I am selling the gun to go 'up' in calibre for that only reason. I'm kinda selling it to put the extra cash in my pocket to pay for the 25-06 I just bought for my wife. I dont want something 'too big' in the 284's place......

Blah.....tough calls......now you've just got me worryin Tod....lol
 
Wsm

They are all good calibres, i own a 270WSM and a 7MM Rem.mag. Never owned a 300WSM but the two i do own are both capable of what you are asking with the right bullet, the 270WSM is becomming a favorite of mine and that is what i would use due to light recoil, not that the 7mm has alot but some what more.
 
Rackmastr said:
I'm kinda selling it to put the extra cash in my pocket to pay for the 25-06 I just bought for my wife

I assume you handload. Shoulda just loaded some 120 gr. Ballistic Tips @ 2900 fps in the 284 and bingo, you got a 25-06 ;)

good luck on your decisions
 
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