What size Bismuth shot were you using in the 28 gauge on ducks?Never loaded one ounce loads but I have done a pile of 7/8oz loads with bismuth in the past for ducks and geese .
Devastating over decoys or jump shooting ponds.
Cat
#4's.What size Bismuth shot were you using in the 28 gauge on ducks?
I agree, I always run chokes on the open side for my heavier loads .The 28 doesn't handle shot sizes larger than #6 lead or non toxic or heavy payoads with tight chokes. Open chokes pattern better but limit effective range. Be carefull with substituting bismuth for lead data the volumes are not the same.
How much choke are you using ? cat. You are to fast for me cat you answered my question before i could ask it must be the air out west we eastern boys are a little slower on the draw . I can't find that load cat it seems stout at 30gr. and i do like that HV wad.#4's.
30 grains of H110 and an HV28 wad in a ballistics Products hull .
This load was out of one if their manuals.
Cat
IC and and light mod last time I hunted with a 28.How much choke are you using ? cat
I asume that is with a heavy large shot charge. My lead field loads are usually 7/8 #7 1/2 copper plated with mod and i mod. chokesIC and and light mod last time I hunted with a 28.
Cat
I never changed those chokes in my screw in guns and in my Ugaretechea they were fixed .I asume that is with a heavy large shot charge. My lead field loads are usually 7/8 #7 1/2 copper plated with mod and i mod. chokes
It was in Ballistics Products High Performance manual , 2005 I think, page 94.. I can't find that load cat it seems stout at 30gr. and i do like that HV wad.![]()
Cat I have some C-I-L Imperial orange paper 3/4 ounce loads of BB.I agree, I always run chokes on the open side for my heavier loads .
It is amazing how far put you can kill a duck with #4 though with am IC choke.
I have some vintage factory Dominion ammo that is 3/4 oz of #2!
Cat
At 24:24 of the video is a picture of a 28 gauge 2 3/4 inch 1 ounce Bismuth load pattern at 40 yards, seems to look pretty good.My experience with 1oz 28ga loads have always been disappointing.
I've played with quite a few wad/gun combinations and have always found the 1oz loads pattern worst than a 3/4 or 7/8oz load.
My experience is limited to lead birdshot loads though, your experience may be different with bismuth.
Bismuth being lighter, would weight less in the same area taken up by lead,than lead.Would not the lighter load be okay?A heavier load, would no doubt not be good.The 28 doesn't generally handle shot sizes larger than #6 lead or non toxic or heavy payoads with tight chokes very well. Open chokes pattern better but limit effective range. Be carefull with substituting bismuth for lead data the volumes per weight are not the same.
At 24:24 of the video is a picture of a 28 gauge 2 3/4 inch 1 ounce Bismuth load pattern at 40 yards, seems to look pretty good.![]()
It is said that 100 pellets in a circle is a good pattern for hunting.the pattern of this load has 109 in the 30 inch circle at 40 years.so it should work well.I personally would not feel comfortable reaching out to 40yds with a pattern so marginally thin.
From what I understand ,solid copper shot is not on the list of approved non toxic shot listed by the Canadian Wildlife Service.Only a percentage of it can be copper.Anyone loaded copper shot not plated but full copper ? looks like maybe a replacement for bismuth.



























