.280 Ross help

Wow the checkering looks like it was cut yesterday ,very sharp .In my opinion it worth a little more than 1500' rc98 are selling for 1600 now a days .that rifle is a collectors piece worth 2000 any day of the week
 
Croaker:
With respect “You asked”
IRT value/condition, the rear barrel sight is not original and is not available. Looked back closer at the front sight , and likewise. Don’t “take it to the ball” until you remove it (barrel sight), fill w/ a blank, and replace with the Porter peep sight. (IFF it is a factory “Porter”)
The base looks like it has been hammered a few times on the starboard side in the above “exercises”. The sling eyes are not original and are an aftermarket replacement that may have damaged the wood for (unobtainable) originals. I see pitting (with my 76 yr. Old eyes), but the lands look proud enough to be serviceable, so it may shoot to open sight standards. Finally there are barrel blemishes and action corrosion from carrying to remove it from “excellent” to “good”.
With respect, ..239 “looks” like a nice, serviceable hunting Ross, but by the time it is restored, someone will have hundreds of dollars in expenses.
So what a man will opine and what he’ll pay are two very different things
PM me with a pic of the “original rear sight” and a close up of the rear of the bevel area and I will tell you what you have to work with.
Good luck at the gun show today.
OGC
 
OGC is correct on all counts. It also looks like it has been reblued or touched up.

Reloaded ammo still has value. Bullets can be pulled, powder replaced with new, known load.

HDS is Huntington Die Specialties brass (good stuff).
 
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I don’t see many discrepancies in this rifle as others have posted it is a 100 year old rifle it’s not new so of coarse it as some flaws it’s not new but over all it’s in very good condition and would be a great addition to any collection
 
gordonlbyrne said:
I don’t see many discrepancies in this rifle as others have posted it is a 100 year old rifle it’s not new so of coarse it as some flaws it’s not new but over all it’s in very good condition and would be a great addition to any collection
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The sad part, from what I have experienced, is that although it is a great collectors piece. Those that would be interested in collecting tend to be more rare than the rifle itself.
 
There is a difference between collectors and “gatherers”. Having owned a few (dozen) Rosses in an otherwise wasted lifetime, Rosses that have issues are not of interest save for specific “parts donors. BTW Ross made close to (factory) 18,000 sporters and target rifles alone, never mind the “Bubba modified militaries”.
With all due respect this one is for a gatherer/hunter. BUT, .280 is a PITA (and the M-10 Porter is junk ) and the hunter will reach for a .308, .270 or 30-06 instead of all that fuss and muss. So we have a rifle that is high priced, requires a reloader (skill, dies, equipment, perseverance) a decent barrel condition (RARE) and a Lyman 48 to deliver the seldom used “goods”.
No wonder we are a dying breed!
TTFN
OGC
 
The sad part, from what I have experienced, is that although it is a great collectors piece. Those that would be interested in collecting tend to be more rare than the rifle itself.
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Hilarious, you have a prominent Ross collector telling you it’s not all that and you’re ignoring him lol
 
OGC has forgotten more about Ross rifles than I know about guns.

I would determine you are ignoring his point by the way immediately after he said the rifle was not in collector condition you described it as “a great collectors piece”
 
Although this rifle has a few flaws that take it out of top dollar realm, it is still collectable.

It may take a while but the proper rear sight and sling swivels can be found. (Did we ever determine if the RR sight is a Porter Peep or the barrel leaf sight?)

I have been collecting Ross rifles for over 40 years, and own and have sold a few M-10 .280s. I only acquired a couple of real nice ones recently.

I still feel that the ones that are not quite as nice are collectable.

Our esteemed colleague OGC`s statement that 18000 sporter Rosses were made is a bit misleading.

This number includes many different models as well as the Home Guard Rifles. The M-10 .280 was a small portion of this number.

This by the way is one of the many reasons I consider the Ross one of the most interesting rifles to collect.
 
Scuzzi on the HGs and MMS et al. (Going too fast)

I suggest we (myself included) are off track here. The kid is trying to sell his Dad’s rifle for maximum bucks. All he wants is a number, but that will be determined by the beholder. Discerning eyes will see one value and others will determine their own threshold on diverse wants and wishes.
I got full of myself (lesson RE-learned) and was trying to give Croaker a “set of brains” to make a (starting) determination, between “I’d pay” (if I had the money…but I don’t) and real worth.
So my suggestion (only) is put it up here, Gun and Town Post for say $2500 OR BEST OFFER or on Switzer’s or Kidds (inc. 15% fee, 13% GST, S&H) and let the market decide.
Happy Halloween
OGC
 
Oldguncrank said:
Scuzzi on the HGs and MMS et al. (Going too fast)

I suggest we (myself included) are off track here. The kid is trying to sell his Dad’s rifle for maximum bucks. All he wants is a number, but that will be determined by the beholder. Discerning eyes will see one value and others will determine their own threshold on diverse wants and wishes.
I got full of myself (lesson RE-learned) and was trying to give Croaker a “set of brains” to make a (starting) determination, between “I’d pay” (if I had the money…but I don’t) and real worth.
So my suggestion (only) is put it up here, Gun and Town Post for say $2500 OR BEST OFFER or on Switzer’s or Kidds (inc. 15% fee, 13% GST, S&H) and let the market decide.
Happy Halloween
OGC
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Thank you.
 
I remember back when I was 10 or 11 listening to my dad and his friends talking and the subject of the 280 Ross came up and they talked about it as if it was the hammer of Thor and accurate as a lazer beam. Already a bit of a gun nut, I filed this bit of info in my hard drive.

When I was 17 (1970) I stayed overnight in a friend's house and when I closed the bedroom door there was a rifle in the corner. I recognized it as a Ross sporter immediately because I owned a crudely sporterized Ross M-10 303 a family friend had given me when I was 13.

I picked it up and examined it. It was a 280, slim sporter stock, fine checkering, lovely rifle. Put it back in the corner.

Asked my buddy about it when I ran into him a few years ago and he said "You know, I don't know what happened to that gun."
 
I could almost swear that was the first M-10 I owned. Did your relative who owned it have several Rosses including a re stocked R-10 and a nicely Sopterized military MkIII?
 
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