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[starpuss]

If he goes to court, they will hold his gun until a verdict is in. If he pleads guilty, it may be a fine and loss of hunting privileges. Depends on the judge.

there is no court , they gave him a ticket , and they told him he can still hunt monday in rifle ,

if he wanted to where he pay's his ticket , he can try to fight it

i got lots of tickets like this one for doing stuff i should not of done befor and they are ez to fight , like i had a no helment ticket well rideing atv's offroad and i got away with out paying it , also got a ticket from the ranger for haveing fullauto gun's when hunting and got away not paying that saying all i was doing is hiting the triger real fast , and i did not have to pay it

there is no way they can give "loss of hunting privileges" to him for this one
all you can get that from is fireing from inside the car or at night

 

[starpuss]

from the hunting regs in ontario atleast. the tag has to be put on the animal as soon as you get to it. not after you gut it or anything else. as soon as you get to it. if you get caught with the animal without a tag you face a hefty fine.

hear the tag has to be put on it when you have it in the car/truck befor you move the car , if it is on an atv it is ok w.o it till you get to your car/truck

 

[catnthehatt]

hear the tag has to be put on it when you have it in the car/truck befor you move the car , if it is on an atv it is ok w.o it till you get to your car/truck

The FIRST thing you should be doing is tagging a shot deer, not worrying about getting through loopholes.

Never mind what you "hear", read your regulations and be sure......
Cat

 

[bronco_mudder]

( *** if he got a buck over 4" he would get his driver to go to town and buy the tag )*** this buck looked like it was well under 4"

Its illegal to go buy a license after you shoot the animal. Your father had an antlerless tag and so thats all he was entitled to. If he wasn't sure of his target he shouldn't have pulled the trigger. To have his "driver" go buy a general muzzle license after he shot a buck is against the law.

If you are not sure,don't shoot,it's up to the hunter to be sure that the animal is legal before taking the shot.

Exactly

Aren't you supposed to buy your tags before you shoot the animal?

Yes, not drive around shoot something that might be classed as an antlered deer (the law doesn't call it buck or doe tags here, they're general, which is any animal, buck doe or fawn, or an antlerless tag, which is a deer with less than 4 inches of antler)

Does'nt sound like you old man used binos and he certainly did not properly identify his target so learn from his mistakes and be a better hunter.

Some more good advice

he did have a tag........

But only for antlerless deer, and obviously he wasn't sure of his target, and I get the impression that he didn't really care, because he would have "just gone back to town to get his driver to buy a tag"

 

[Winnipeg Toymaker]

The book I have states it must be tagged upon arrival at a means of transportation. This is a vehicle which includes ORV (off road vehicles)a wagon pulled by a horse,A horse if it is packing the animal, or even a canoe using a motor.

 

[sealhunter]

robot deer , winnipeg manitoba (spuce sideing road) 5miles from #11 lefthand side

my dad was out at 10:00 today and he was driveing by it and seen it but passed it by 100 yards and walked back to it (50 yards from car) and shot it right in the hart lol (125 yard away)

4 rangers came up to him from all sides and looked at his deer tag (all he had left was his 2end deer tag "doe or buck with under 4") but this deer had 5" so they gave him a 445.00 fine and sezed his gun.. this sucks last day

good thing i did not go with him today i had to work or they would of taken my gun also

ok.. but the deer was 125 yards in the bush and he shot it thinking it was a little buck and they wheere under 4" and his scope was a 4x40mm

in a scope that would be hard to see if it was a 4or5 " buck i think they should not of given his the fine (also they keeped his 2end deer tag)

but monday is rifle and we are still going out seeing they told him he can

he also has pic's that he got useing his cell phone , but they told him that he cannot take them , but he went back after and did


and his plan was that if he gota buck his driver would go back into town and get his buck tag and then bring it back. well my dad guted it but they told him that would not work (but i thought you dont need to put on the tag till you put it into the truck)

also friday we got a little buck with 3" stubs that we put the buck tag on thinking that muzz was over next day and we should use up the tag

to bad we did not put the doe tag on that.

I can't follow this damn story at all!!!!! Please explain to me, I must be losing my comprehension skills.

and his plan was that if he gota buck his driver would go back into town and get his buck tag and then bring it back. well my dad guted it but they told him that would not work (but i thought you dont need to put on the tag till you put it into the truck)

You said he shot a robot deer. What did he gut???

What is this stuff about running to town for tags???

Sorry, it seems everyone gets it, but me...

I'm very

Were you on a moose hunting trip a while back with a 257 in another thread?

 

[bronco_mudder]

hear the tag has to be put on it when you have it in the car/truck befor you move the car , if it is on an atv it is ok w.o it till you get to your car/truck

Close to true, but before tagging is required there is something else you need to do. Immediately after a kill is made you have to cut the month and day out of the tag, even if you don't attach it to the animal. How was he going to do that if he had to take his driver to buy a tag for it?

 

[bosley]

There is so much missing from this post????

 

[Fury]

That's right, you don't need to affix the tag to the deer immediately but you must notch the date in your tag immediately.

The rules are easy to follow (and not particularly onerous). I'm amazed when people don't follow them.

 

[kseniuk1]

I always notch the tag and attach it as soon as I get to the animal. Better safe than sorry.

 

[starpuss]

Close to true, but before tagging is required there is something else you need to do. Immediately after a kill is made you have to cut the month and day out of the tag, even if you don't attach it to the animal. How was he going to do that if he had to take his driver to buy a tag for it?

yes we do cut out the day tag befor we gut it to show we where going to put it on (but we gut it at the car not in the bush)



he thought the deer was under 4" so when he shot he thought he was fine...



he has bin hunting all his life.

but he knew it was a fake deer when he shot seeing it made a hell of a noise when the bullet hit it , also he tells me it was like 1min befor he seen the rangers comeing down the road


also i went and got him a Nikon Action Series 12 x 50 mm Binoculars today so he can see next time befor he take;s the shot

 

[roop]

Were you on a moose hunting trip a while back with a 257 in another thread?

LOL Thats good humour!!

 

[1899]

Was this a "robot" deer? I assume that means a decoy intended to catch poachers.

The post is quite confusing.

If the law is you need to have 4" or less, and this was 5", then I would certainly take the matter to court.

 

[BigGreenJeep]

i got lots of tickets like this one for doing stuff i should not of done befor and they are ez to fight , like i had a no helment ticket well rideing atv's offroad and i got away with out paying it , also got a ticket from the ranger for haveing fullauto gun's when hunting and got away not paying that saying all i was doing is hiting the triger real fast , and i did not have to pay it

there is no way they can give "loss of hunting privileges" to him for this one
all you can get that from is fireing from inside the car or at night

No wonder you don't see anything wrong with what your father did. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree eh?

 

[archie126]

The law whatever it is 4" to be legal or 5", sounds crazy to me.
Having said that if thats the rules you have to play by you should make sure you know 100% what you are shooting at.

I know I would have a hard time telling the diff thru a scope.

 

[Winnipeg Toymaker]

I would like hunt by the rules in the book starpuss has and know the extents the courts deal with illegal hunting. WOW...I love his regulations..Can I get a copy of the book to show to the courts when I am ticketed...

 

[Turbo]

The area this guy and his father poach in is riddled with guys just like him. Myself and several other hunters have been lobbying the local NRO's, reporting road hunters etc for years now. It seems that finally this year, Manitoba Conservation has finally gotten enough man power to act on it.

FYI There are plenty of fluffies out in this exact area this year, and from what I've heard the NRO's are catching plenty of these road warriors.

Good luck to the real hunters Monday morning.

 

[gravyboat]

How do you gut a robo-deer? Pull the batteries?

 

[sealhunter]

well my dad guted it but they told him that would not work (but i thought you dont need to put on the tag till you put it into the truck

Please guys, don't just skip my post... please help me out...

He shot a Robot deer. What did he gut ?????

I know nothing about robot deer, do they have guts in them???
Are they like terminators only they are deer?

I have read this post 10 times and it's easier to follow my grandmother in Walmart then follow this story. And what is with the the full auto hunting..

Man, you are a piece of work, and after that post about the full auto, no doubt a troll. As well, you can't spell, can't tell a story, and Your old man is just as bad and you are both poor examples to any other hunter and poor representatives for the rest of us.

Based on your posts, followed up with a "I just bought him some Nikon Binos" I know your full of BS.

You admittedly illegally hunt and it seems that an old saying is true, "What's in the Cat is in the Kitten" Hope you and your old man get caught at this BS.

Sorry guys, but it was time.

 

[M12shooter]

Was the decoy on private property? Often placed such to "solidify" an offence after landowner complaint or something of the sort.

Puting "fluffy" along a well travelled road allowance on crown land during rifle season is bordering on entrapment I feel. Poor enforcement policy as too much gray area there... unless a guy's dumb enough to shoot from the vehicle. Might as well put a bag of cash there as well and charge the first person who picks it up with possetion of stolen property.

But if the guy in question did not have a proper tag or neglected to notch it then this person is just plain stupid... actually this whole crew sounds as though they fell out of the stupid tree...and hit every branch on the way down...