2SKSs with questions and aTokarev

[powderpuff]

Most of the bit I know about SKSs I learned in a couple hours over the past two days in here. The Russian one below is registered as a Siminov Tula but I believe based on the little yield sign with zero inside I powdered on front of receiver that it is Siminov Russian State Arsenal? Please comment if you know for sure. I guess it doesn’t matter as all the numbers are a little crooked, no lettering on side of slide, buttstock re-serialed, large rivet pin. There is a faint “Z in box” on top centre of slide.

As for the Chinese one I had the Chinese lettering on receiver translated definitively to “five six style”. It has 306 in a triangle just befor that Chinese lettering and I see people in here calling that a model. It is registered as a Norinco. What is most accurate way to characterize this piece? The mag is pinned at bottom with small rivet.

Please comment if you agree the Chinese one is new not refurbished based on:
All numbers are straight and appear original to me.
Metal finish appears original to me (have experience with old Winchesters).

Lastly, as Russian pieces seem to trump Chinese in here, is one of these pieces more desirable than the other? Based on my own homework I see it as a refurb Russian vs a new Chinese. The wood is certainly soft on the latter. The bores and boltfaces are great on both.

Thanks for your comments so far. No offense, guess you know by the proofmarks but since not explained I'll wait for a second opinion as confirmation before calling it an Izzy as I wouldn't want to misrepresent it to anyone.

 

[stefK]

Most of the bit I know about SKSs I learned in a couple hours over the past two days in here. The Russian one below is registered as a Siminov Tula but I believe based on the little yield sign with zero inside I powdered on front of receiver that it is Siminov Russian State Arsenal? Please comment if you know for sure. I guess it doesn’t matter as all the numbers are a little crooked, no lettering on side of slide, buttstock re-serialed, large rivet pin. There is a faint “Z in box” on top centre of slide.

As for the Chinese one I do know the Chinese lettering on receiver translates to “five six style” so I guess that means model 56. It is registered as a Norinco. The mag is pinned at bottom with small rivet.
What is most accurate way to characterize this piece? Please comment if you agree the Chinese one is new based on:
All numbers are straight and appear original to me.
Metal finish appears original to me (have experience with old Winchesters).

Lastly, as Russian pieces seem to trump Chinese in here, is one of these pieces more desirable than the other? Based on my own homework I see it as a refurb Russian vs a new Chinese. The wood is certainly soft on the latter. The bores and boltfaces are great on both.

Thanks for comment and maybe trivial but to keep the goodies straight can you tell me which one would more likely have come with the oiler in a tight fitting snapped thin vinyl case, and one of the slings has much larger leather bands on it than the other

Thanks a lot,
Powderpuff

The Russian you have in your possession is a SKS from the Izhevsk arsenal. It seems that a Izhevsk SKS is getting harder to come by. Good score on your part.

 

[fiddler]

For shooting quality, either sks will shoot fine, but for looks the Russian takes it all the way. Chinese rifles were never meant as show pieces, They were made to be rugged and functional and costs were kept down.

The SVT is, in all probability, the most accurate rifle on your rack. A hundred dollar Mosin will complete your collection and is the same 7.62x54r bullet that the SVT40 shoots.

Buy lots of ammo and have fun. Get ammo for the future as well.

 

[RMXC51]

That SVT has a naval infantry stock. Might not be original to the rifle, but pretty rare nonetheless. Nice!