Had a Grizzly kill a donkey, just west of Sundre, some months ago. Went right past the horses in the corral and grabbed the donkey, about 600 lbs. in weight.
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3 cougars killed after attacking Vancouver Island farm animals
- Thread starter Thomas D'Arcy McGee
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Had a Grizzly kill a donkey, just west of Sundre, some months ago. Went right past the horses in the corral and grabbed the donkey, about 600 lbs. in weight.
Grizz
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- Trenton, ON
So the grizzly was more of an a$$ man apparently...Had a Grizzly kill a donkey, just west of Sundre, some months ago. Went right past the horses in the corral and grabbed the donkey, about 600 lbs. in weight.
Grizz
A donkey might fair ok with a cougar...not sure. Dogs....you better have a couple at least and good size ones.
A cougar makes short work of your typical farm mut. I've had a cougar chase 2 of dogs up onto my deck a couple of times. Had the cougar up a tree 50' off by back deck, I'm assuming waiting for the dogs.
One of the big problems is we can only discharge shotguns here in the valley legally. It can be a challenge to get in shotgun range.
A cougar makes short work of your typical farm mut. I've had a cougar chase 2 of dogs up onto my deck a couple of times. Had the cougar up a tree 50' off by back deck, I'm assuming waiting for the dogs.
One of the big problems is we can only discharge shotguns here in the valley legally. It can be a challenge to get in shotgun range.
Thomas D'Arcy McGee
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Try a fully rifled slug shotgun they are often used for deer hunting.
Attended a predator work shop, just a week ago. Cougars tend to specialize in their selection of prey, based on experience. There was on in the west country doing very well, killing feral horses.
Grizz
Law states shot only...no single projectile.
That being said I have heard rummers of the odd .06 being deployed in defence of horses and what not.
There ARE cougar hunting seasons in B.C. including Vancouver Island. The farm I suspect was probably too close to other residences for hunting. Cougars come quite close and into residential area on the Island. That's where the deer are because in part the high wolf population has really reduced bush deer numbers in north Vancouver island with increasing numbers of town deer. They (deer)are a real problem even in Victoria!A few years ago a cougar was found wandering around in a parking garage in Victoria.
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- Prince Albert, Sk
You mad bro?
You loose your own argument with your own comments.
If you are legally allowed to protect your live stock, which I do know ,
then why do you have to S,S,S???? lolI think having the CO's know there is a predator problem, and the neighbors know you have a predator problem, you are more likely to get the predator problem controlled.
But you go hard Wyatt Earp.
I'll throw rocks at the kitty because obviously I don't have the shooting prowess you do.
You mad bro?
Not mad at all. Just disgusted that someone felt the need to broadcast something perfectly legal on the CBC. This article has no purpose other than trying to rouse the SJW's who have no clue. OMG they killed that cute harmless kitty. Lol. There is no context in this article that suggests the purpose of it is to educate people about the REAL threat that exists from problematic wildlife such as these predators clearly were. An utterly pointless and useless article.
You loose your own argument with your own comments.
If you are legally allowed to protect your live stock, which I do know ,
A week attempt to discredit by someone who doesn't understand the reality of the situation.
You shoot, not because you want to, but because you have to. It's the most effective means of control that is readily available to us. Why do you think the government made provisions in the law to allow us this ability? Also provisions to firearms storage laws so that our tool (read firearm) can be easily accessed. Funny isn't it that the government even recognizes and even accomodates our unique requirements. Imagine if I had to call and wait for back up every time. 99% of the time the problematic animal would be long gone and I would have already suffered another loss as a result.
You shovel because that is the best method of disposal so that you eliminate the possibility of a dead carcass attracting even more predators. Yes various types of predators will return to feed on their own species. And when they have it all cleaned up and nothing more to eat, guess what, they come back for more livestock. If you don't bury them it only attracts more and increases your problem. It's not about trying to hide what you just did.
And you shut up simply because there is no need for the CBC to make a non-story out of a perfectly legal occurrence. Also not all CO's are knowledgeable on the legalities pertaining to predator control. A few years back a fellow farmer not far from me shot and killed a black bear that he observed in the pasture stalking a newborn calf. After he shot it he called the local CO, told him he shot the bear and wanted to make it known that there were bears in the area (wasn't aware there were bears around before he shot the one, and thought the MNR would do something constructive with the knowledge like notifying others in the area of the possibility of there being more bears around).
What he got in return was a whole list of charges against him for shooting the bear without a hunting license, out of season and a few others I forget. Even after he tried explaining to the CO that he had the legal right to shoot problematic wildlife for the purpose of predator control.
He fought the charges in court and appropriately was let off. But it caused him a lot of grief and un necessarily cost him some money he couldn't afford to spend.
So yes, there are reasons to STFU after you did something perfectly legal.
If you didn't suffer from a lack of comprehension you'd see no contradiction.
The only way to help reduce the frequency of these predator problems is to be proactive. How one chooses to be proactive is entirely their choice. I choose to be prepared to take care of my own problems because others have proven to be unreliable or problematic to the situation. The CO's can't always be there when they are needed and not all neighbours are supportive for various reasons of misinformed self belief.
But you go hard Wyatt Earp.
Nothing hard about it if you're prepared.
I'll throw rocks at the kitty because obviously I don't have the shooting prowess you do.
And that right there is the whole reason you have a problem with what I am saying. Someone else can legally do what you can't.
No sense in me furthur arguing with someone who doesn't understand.
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We need a CGN top post section for ones like that. Glad I already set my coffee down before reading that. Haha
- Location
- Prince Albert, Sk
Not mad at all. Just disgusted that someone felt the need to broadcast something perfectly legal on the CBC. This article has no purpose other than trying to rouse the SJW's who have no clue. OMG they killed that cute harmless kitty. Lol. There is no context in this article that suggests the purpose of it is to educate people about the REAL threat that exists from problematic wildlife such as these predators clearly were. An utterly pointless and useless article.
A week attempt to discredit by someone who doesn't understand the reality of the situation.
You shoot, not because you want to, but because you have to. It's the most effective means of control that is readily available to us. Why do you think the government made provisions in the law to allow us this ability? Also provisions to firearms storage laws so that our tool (read firearm) can be easily accessed. Funny isn't it that the government even recognizes and even accomodates our unique requirements. Imagine if I had to call and wait for back up every time. 99% of the time the problematic animal would be long gone and I would have already suffered another loss as a result.
You shovel because that is the best method of disposal so that you eliminate the possibility of a dead carcass attracting even more predators. Yes various types of predators will return to feed on their own species. And when they have it all cleaned up and nothing more to eat, guess what, they come back for more livestock. If you don't bury them it only attracts more and increases your problem. It's not about trying to hide what you just did.
And you shut up simply because there is no need for the CBC to make a non-story out of a perfectly legal occurrence. Also not all CO's are knowledgeable on the legalities pertaining to predator control. A few years back a fellow farmer not far from me shot and killed a black bear that he observed in the pasture stalking a newborn calf. After he shot it he called the local CO, told him he shot the bear and wanted to make it known that there were bears in the area (wasn't aware there were bears around before he shot the one, and thought the MNR would do something constructive with the knowledge like notifying others in the area of the possibility of there being more bears around).
What he got in return was a whole list of charges against him for shooting the bear without a hunting license, out of season and a few others I forget. Even after he tried explaining to the CO that he had the legal right to shoot problematic wildlife for the purpose of predator control.
He fought the charges in court and appropriately was let off. But it caused him a lot of grief and un necessarily cost him some money he couldn't afford to spend.
So yes, there are reasons to STFU after you did something perfectly legal.
If you didn't suffer from a lack of comprehension you'd see no contradiction.
The only way to help reduce the frequency of these predator problems is to be proactive. How one chooses to be proactive is entirely their choice. I choose to be prepared to take care of my own problems because others have proven to be unreliable or problematic to the situation. The CO's can't always be there when they are needed and not all neighbours are supportive for various reasons of misinformed self belief.
Nothing hard about it if you're prepared.
And that right there is the whole reason you have a problem with what I am saying. Someone else can legally do what you can't.
No sense in me furthur arguing with someone who doesn't understand.
Alright big fella.
Nice way to take things out of context and assume.
Are you twelve(12)??
Alright big fella.
Nice way to take things out of context and assume.
Are you twelve(12)??
At least I had the capacity to offer some valid points of argument to the conversation (whether or not it's what you want to hear).
Thats more than you've accomplished with your rebuttal. Heck, you weren't even able to offer any counter argument let alone your own.
You're level of response, (or lack thereof), goes to show who has the maturity level deficiency. When all else fails.....
For the record, how proficient in predator control are you? Just looking for some first hand, knowledgeable expertise. If this applies to you.
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- Prince Albert, Sk
At least I had the capacity to offer some valid points of argument to the conversation (whether or not it's what you want to hear).
Thats more than you've accomplished with your rebuttal. Heck, you weren't even able to offer any counter argument let alone your own.
You're level of response, (or lack thereof), goes to show who has the maturity level deficiency. When all else fails.....
For the record, how proficient in predator control are you? Just looking for some first hand, knowledgeable expertise. If this applies to you.
I'll just let you continue to make your assumptions.
I'll just let you continue to make your assumptions.
Yet another one of your thoughtful, informative, intelligent contributions to the discussion. Bravo. We've learned so much from you...
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Man,
a week ago I got to read through the comments this article and report stirred up with Facebook, and now reading these comments, its polar opposite!
so I guess there is a difference between firearm owners/hunters/gun enthusiasts and the middle aged women/millennial hippies on facebook! go figure.
seriously though, the cougars and wolves on Vancouver island are a huge problem.
a week ago I got to read through the comments this article and report stirred up with Facebook, and now reading these comments, its polar opposite!
so I guess there is a difference between firearm owners/hunters/gun enthusiasts and the middle aged women/millennial hippies on facebook! go figure.
seriously though, the cougars and wolves on Vancouver island are a huge problem.
Thomas D'Arcy McGee
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
When you state "problem" what exactly are you referring to?
