3 Gun Chest Rig / Vest Advice

retepnosflow said:
Soooo basically chest rig is not a good choice if the COF includes a prone shooting position.
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Although I'm recommending a belt on general principles, using a vest prone is only a problem if a guy has a substantial gut. Otherwise you just rotate a bit, which you'll do anyway to get a good angle on the mag insertion, and your mags are available.

If you're thinking IPSC 3-gun, AFAIK you do only one gun at a time, so you don't need all 3 guns worth of gear on a belt at the same time. Different story with IDPA / ODPL, where you might do all three guns in one stage (I consider this poor form, but other COF designers disagree).
 
Not sure what the COf's will be like but I will be ready either way when the time comes, there is a 3gun in Spruce grove this weekend that I might try to visit to get a better idea of what others are using, I have limited time so maybe not!
 
where you might do all three guns in one stage (I consider this poor form, but other COF designers disagree).
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LOL cause in actuallity you'll never ever fight with a carbine while having a pistol holstered or shooting your pistol with a carbine slung.

You'll always have an opportunity to pick one or the other before the shooting starts ;)
 
Farmboy said:
LOL cause in actuallity you'll never ever fight with a carbine while having a pistol holstered or shooting your pistol with a carbine slung.

You'll always have an opportunity to pick one or the other before the shooting starts ;)
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Pistols are just used to fight your way to a rifle anyways!

I grabbed a super cheap vest off of ebay. she works great. not the most durable but it's survived 3 matches so far. unless you know exactly what you want i recoomend buying cheap stuff to start with, it will give you an idea of what you like and what you don't like. that way when you spend some real money on good equipment you'll know exactly what you want and what to look for. thats just my 2 bits.
 
Farmboy said:
LOL cause in actuallity you'll never ever fight with a carbine while having a pistol holstered or shooting your pistol with a carbine slung.
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I think you misunderstood me - I mean pistol, carbine, and shotgun all in one stage. It's a pain the the ass to gear up for, slow to run the stage, and not even remotely related (IMHO) to "simulate[d] self-defense scenarios and real life encounters". Then again, maybe a tac vest isn't so close either... but if we are simulating ERT/SWAT with the multigun events, I don't think they carry three guns at once either.
 
acrashb said:
I think you misunderstood me - I mean pistol, carbine, and shotgun all in one stage. It's a pain the the ass to gear up for, slow to run the stage, and not even remotely related (IMHO) to "simulate[d] self-defense scenarios and real life encounters". Then again, maybe a tac vest isn't so close either... but if we are simulating ERT/SWAT with the multigun events, I don't think they carry three guns at once either.
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I like what your saying and it seems to make sense, But when I compete I'm in competition & not trying to simulate anything except the guy who Wins!!!! I personally do not do this to keep in practice for survival I do it for fun as I hope everyone else out there does as well...FUN FUN FUN:cheers:!!!!!
Either way all the information that has been provided is greatly apreciated on all levels & Ideals of how come & why, thanks guys!
 
We have a "standard" stage we run in our local three gun that includes pistol, rifle and shotgun. It's a variation on El Presidente that tests reloading skills more than anything. Given the way the stage is set up with barrels to put your spare ammo/mags and long guns on it's not difficult to do.

Good stages come in all styles, from "real life" to "game" to "completely unrealistic but fun." We do a mix of styles and try to work a variety of skill sets into them.
 
Stevo said:
We have a "standard" stage we run in our local three gun that includes pistol, rifle and shotgun. It's a variation on El Presidente that tests reloading skills more than anything. Given the way the stage is set up with barrels to put your spare ammo/mags and long guns on it's not difficult to do.

Good stages come in all styles, from "real life" to "game" to "completely unrealistic but fun." We do a mix of styles and try to work a variety of skill sets into them.
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Stevo it's funny I was supposed to go up to peace for a moose hunt and was going to PM but tapped out for other reasons, Anyway hopefully I can make it to the spruce grove match to check it out. Sounds like you are attending???
 
here is the "ironman" stage for my last 3gun. you sart with all your guns and mags unloaded. 6 rounds only for each. you have to climb a fence, load your handgun mag then engage 3 paper targets. then drag a tire, load your rifle mags and engage 6 bowling pins. then do 6 pushups load 6 shotgun shells and engage 6 steel. here's teh video of my run. for this stage you need no gear whatsoever.
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ndb86 said:
you have to climb a fence, load your handgun mag then engage 3 paper targets. then drag a tire, load your rifle mags and engage 6 bowling pins.
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Looks like fun. Thinking about the guys that show up at my matches, I'd lose a third on the wall / fence, a fifth on the tire drag, a third on the pushups. The remaining 2/15 would be doing gamey girly pushups and get FTDRs.
 
Yeah I looked at that. While I like challenging stages I think you have to be careful not design stages that give too big an edge to someone because of simple physical strength or foot speed.

Simply put - is this a shooting competition or a strongman contest?

I know of a couple local guys -and I am nearing that point of life as well- that while being very good shooters would quite simply would be incapable of doing a stage like that.

As far as using more than one firearm in a stage -hence the term multigun!-I am all for it if it is done safely.

When we wrote the B.C. Multigun rules we allowed one single gun stage (ala IPSC 3gun) for each firearm type but all other stages MUST involve more than a one firearm.
Why??? Because it is fun :)

John
 
I think the term "ironman" would give most participants the warning that there is some amount of physical requirement to the match.

While it might not be the match for you, it is for someone else. Just like other shooting sports out there, sometimes real life is not all inclusive.

Greg
 
These ironman match are held south of the border all the time. They are well organized, well attended and successful for both the participants and the match coordinators.

Just because it is not a match for you, doesn't mean it is not a match for others. There is nothing saying you can't sign up for them. Just pay your fee and participate.

Greg
 
Well....this isn't 'south of the border'....this is Canada and in our case Western Canada which reduces the size of our target group even further.

What works well there won't always work here. I readily draw from south of the border myself when looking for ideas on equipment, stages, props rules, whatever....but I also understand the difference between south and north of the border.

Anyhow this has turned into something of a hijack so.... :wave:

John
 
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