3 Gun shotgun advice - Rem Versa Max "Turkey" Edition?

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I'm looking for a good priced semi auto shotgun for 3 gun competition and the Remington Versa Max sportsman seems to fit the bill. I'm not sure how handy the 28 inch barrel will be, I think I want something shorter.

There is a 22 inch barrel "Turkey" edition that I am leaving towards. Any reason this is a bad idea that I haven't considered? All criticisms and suggestions welcome.

It comes with a turkey choke installed, I'm guessing I need to replace it with a light modified?
 
I like my 28" barrel, but the general consensus seems to be somewhere in the 24" range.

Lots of guys running Versa max's these days, its either that or the M2.
 
Have you considered the versamax tactical?

It comes with a 22" barrel if that's what you are leaning towards. If price is a factor, how about used?

With a sportsmen, you will have to buy a magazine extension, new spring

Either way you can also spend money on opening up the loading port, welding the fork on the lifter etc etc.
 
Considered the tactical but didn't want to give up the extra capacity of the sportsman. (blocked at 5.5 3 inch shells for tactical vs 5.5 3.5 inch shells for sportsman).
 
They require a lot of maintenance. Parts are exspensive constant cleaning to keep em cycling. I was actually very surprised by the things I read. Was looking to research semis. Just Google best semi auto shotguns. I was honestly leading towards a beneli until researching it.

What negative things have you ready about the B guns?
 
They require a lot of maintenance. Parts are exspensive constant cleaning to keep em cycling. I was actually very surprised by the things I read. Was looking to research semis. Just Google best semi auto shotguns. I was honestly leading towards a beneli until researching it.

Tell me about it.....I couldn't believe it when after 5,000 rounds through my M2 I had to replace the oil that was missing on the bolt....and that dirty carbon build up on the firing pin....well that was complete agony to wipe off with some CLP!!!! I don't know how other semi users fair, but when I have to not clean the dirty pistons and the carbon build up after 300 rounds or so....so the gun will actually work....I feel....unclean....hideous.....like I just robbed a bank.......uncomfortably numb I tell you!!!!
 
I've got the versamax tactical. Love it. But so far only shoot slugs at the range. It's crazy accurate at 100 and me shaking from excitement. Highly recommend it for the weight, it feels very neutral.
 
Versamax went 40000 rounds before the bolt would require an extra push closed. A quick wipe and it was back in action. That was what one of the reviews said. 5000 rounds and the beneli would fail and wasa pita to field clean compared to versamax.

Thanks for backing this up. I'm leaning more now to big green


What negative things
have you ready about the B guns?

Tell me about it.....I couldn't believe it when after 5,000 rounds through my M2 I had to replace the oil that was missing on the bolt....and that dirty carbon build up on the firing pin....well that was complete agony to wipe off with some CLP!!!! I don't know how other semi users fair, but when I have to not clean the dirty pistons and the carbon build up after 300 rounds or so....so the gun will actually work....I feel....unclean....hideous.....like I just robbed a bank.......uncomfortably numb I tell you!!!!
 
I bought a spare 26" 3.5" versamax barrel for my versamax tactical..... Viola' I can now legally have 7 rounds in the magazine +1 ghost load, +1 in chamber.... (Another secret is the tactical barrels are actually chambered for 3.5 if you measure them)

The receivers are all 3.5" receivers..... So the whole magazine thing is s grey area..... Would love to see it goto court, 3.5" reciever, 3.5" chamber..... The only reason Remington marked the barrels 3" is the extended magazine tube was having to much stress on it because of the weight of the shells.
 
Versamax went 40000 rounds before the bolt would require an extra push closed. A quick wipe and it was back in action. That was what one of the reviews said. 5000 rounds and the beneli would fail and wasa pita to field clean compared to versamax.

Thanks for backing this up. I'm leaning more now to big green

Not sure how I backed that up, just asking what you heard.
My belief, through research and many many rounds down range, have shown me the opposite.
There are always one off occurrences. Type of ammo used and conditions of use vary and can do strange things to guns, but by the nature of how the two systems operate, an inertia system will stay reliable longer than a gas system.

A gas system requires gas to drive the pistons.
Gas from shot shells will cause carbon fouling on/in the piston systems and eventually turn the gun into a single shot.
Crappy ammo will gum up the system way earlier than 40000 rounds. More like 400 rounds.(speaking from first hand experience, not random internet stories)

Inertia driven guns use recoil energy to cycle the shotgun.
All gas goes out the barrel and not into the action.
As long as there is enough recoil energy produced by firing the shell, the gun will cycle.

As for the 40,000 round test you mentioned, the average gun (regardless of brand) would fail way before it reached that round count merely because of springs wearing out or other parts breaking.
Like I said, there is always a one off fluke occurrence, but it is by no means the norm.
Few people will ever fire that many rounds in their life let alone out of one gun, and they will be cleaning/lubing along the way.

If someone seriously wants to get competitive and find the right gun for them, they need to get their hands on a few different guns and feel the difference.
Weight, balance, ability to swing quickly and stop on target quickly, stock fit, ease of reloading, recoil feel, quality of materials used to build the gun.
Every brand of gun is different, as well as every barrel length version makes a difference.
Everyone has to put in the effort to find what works for them.

3" vs 3.5" doesn't make one bit of difference in match conditions.
Winning competitions is all about skill.
One extra round or a more expensive gun won't help.
 
To the OP, sorry for the thread derail.

If the turkey edition Vmax feels good in your hands and you are happy with the looks/feel, I can't think of a reason why you couldn't use it.
Not sure if it has ported barrels (some companies port their turkey guns) but if it does, it may put you in Open division depending on the rules used by the competitions you would be attending.

Just make sure you lube it before you get to 40,000 rounds...

Oh, and as far as chokes are concerned, Light Mod is a good all purpose choke but it really depends on the stage you have to shoot.
Wide open clay target hoser stage, I want the widest spread possible (cylinder or even diffusion choke)
Penalty targets or heavy steel at a bit of distance, I'm choking up to Modified or Improved Mod.
Ideally you would have a few and know how they pattern at different distances.
 
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Pauls, why do you have to bring facts and reasoning to a discussion about yet another what's the best 3 gun shotgun????? WHY I ASK?

Sign me up for any gun that'll go 40000 rounds without any lubing.
 
To the OP, sorry for the thread derail.

If the turkey edition Vmax feels good in your hands and you are happy with the looks/feel, I can't think of a reason why you couldn't use it.
Not sure if it has ported barrels (some companies port their turkey guns) but if it does, it may put you in Open division depending on the rules used by the competitions you would be attending.

Just make sure you lube it before you get to 40,000 rounds...

Oh, and as far as chokes are concerned, Light Mod is a good all purpose choke but it really depends on the stage you have to shoot.
Wide open clay target hoser stage, I want the widest spread possible (cylinder or even diffusion choke)
Penalty targets or heavy steel at a bit of distance, I'm choking up to Modified or Improved Mod.
Ideally you would have a few and know how they pattern at different distances.

I can't see that the barrel is ported but it hard to tell because of the "porting" in the chamber design and the thousands of links that search triggers. I did pick up the issue of ported chokes which will put you in open division, so at least that is one pitfall I can now avoid, thanks!

I can't handle one locally (Edmonton), unfortunately they are seeming quite difficult to find. Lots of 28" sportsman, I am just pretty sure I would like something shorter. I'll probably go with the turkey model unseen. It's cheaper than the tactical and marked for 3.5" shells.
 
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