3 Old lever winchesters.need help for value for selling

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Hey guys. I could use a hand. A freind asked me to sell these for him but I am not sure of there value. I checked the manufacture dates online and if they are accurate the two 1894 were made in 1894 and the 1886 was made in 1887. The picks are not the greatest but if you could help me out it would be great.
model 1894 3030 date of manufacture 1894
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model 1894 3855 date of manufacture 1894
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model 1886 4082 date of manufacture 1887
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the winchesters have 3 digit serial numbers the xx on one and ### on the other. the 1886 has a 4 didgit serial number then x.

I don't know to much about the history of levers so that is why I am asking for assistance so all feed back is appreciated.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by those x's, but both Model 1894's appear to be what are known as 'first models'. The distinguishing feature of first model 1894's is the screw head just to the upper left of the loading gate. Your photos are not very sharp, though, so I could be mistaken about seeing a screw head there. For a better photo of a first model receiver, see www.winchestercollector.org/forum/viewtopic.phpt=2739&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 . First model 1894's command a premium in the collector's market if they have not been messed with (re-finished, re-blued, sanded, re-barreled). If they've been messed with, then their value plummets substantially. Madis' dates for manufacture for the model 1894 are incorrect. Some 3-digit serial numbers were received in the warehouse in 1895, but most were 1894 guns. I don't know for sure when the first 30-30 came off the line. Most Model 1894's with serial numbers greater than #1368 were built in 1895 or later. I could not put a value on those two 1894's, but they would be nice to have.

If the Model 1886 is all original and hasn't been messed with, then judging from that photo, I'd put a value of around $2,500 on it. Further details may raise that up or down. There are very few honest '86s for sale here in Canada. An awful lot have gone to the USA up to and including recent months when the Canadian dollar fell into the low 80's of cents against the US dollar. A dealer told me of a particular shipment he knew of that went south last winter, and when I heard the number of old Winchesters in that shipment, my jaw hit the floor. A terrible loss for Canada. Anyway, all this to say that my estimate of $2,500 is my opinion based on having bought and sold a few over the past couple years.
 
the manufacturers dating that is on line can be out as much as 4 years. I have several 1894 guns that were polish room record verified and they were made 2-4 years later than the dates listed online. I also have a 38-55 saddle ring carbine made in 1908 and value at about $750. the 1894 rifle about the same but the other is much higher. You could get them all verified at a cost from the Cody Museum. With a letter verifying they are as manufactured confirmation, they become much more valueable to collectors.
 
Am I seeing things, or does that carbine have saddle rings on both sides???
More pics of the guns closer up would help in determining a value.
Matt
 
I think he put the negative in the scanner backwards Matt....I have done it too. if it is indeed a double,....just what is it without the letter stating such?????? if you look close....the first pic of the right side does not have the loading gate....thus a backward negative. same with the rifle
 
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