3 or 5 shot groups or....

What makes an accurate rifle?

  • 3 shot groups are good enough for me.

    Votes: 52 49.5%
  • 5 shot groups make a real gun.

    Votes: 38 36.2%
  • Who cares as long as I can make a clean kill @ 100 yds

    Votes: 15 14.3%

  • Total voters
    105

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I always see a couple guys arguing over 3 shot groups and 5 shot groups.

Figured a poll might clear up the matter, what makes an accurate rifle?

How long before this one gets personal?:D
 
Personally, when I am testing a new load, I load up 5 rounds. I will usually fire 3 rounds and let the rifle cool back down then fire the last two. I use this method because I get a good indication of 'consistency' of a particular load. If I see something I like, I will test that load again on my next trip to the range.
 
I shoot 3 round groups. I'm really only concerned with the POI on a cold barrel, and that it is consistant, that first shot is the most important one.
 
At the range if I am already zeroed with the rifle I am using, it is
"one shot groups" on Silhouettes!:D
I normally don't shoot a set number of rounds at a target with a hunting rifle, but if I were to, it would likely be a 3 shot.
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From personal experience, it always seems to be shots 4 or 5 that open a group up to what I consider it's real accuracy potential. A single 3 shot group could be more "luck" than accuracy, IMHO. More than one , 3 shot groups tend back towards accuracy again.
 
We are talking about Hunting rifles with light profile barrels right? Three shot groups is all that is necessary to determine hunting accuracy. I occasionally use 5 shot groups in a Varmint rifle with a heavy barrel to see what it will do when the barrel heats up.
 
3 shots for my rifle, provided I'm using the same round each time. If not, then 3 shots with one particular handload.. let it cool off, then shoot 3 more of a different round. No doubt different loads are going to place differently.
 
3 shot groups for hunting rifles 5 shots for varmint guns.

Also these groups MUST be repeatable. If I can get 5 or 6 separate 3 shot groups in a row that measure under 1" then I will consider that rifle/load combination to shoot moa. A 1/2" group among a series of 3" groups however does not make a 1/2 moa load.
 
if a gun wont put 3 shots close together, it surely wont put 5 tight! most often I will shoot 3 shot groups when testing a load, maybe 5 shot groups to fine-tune
 
Cowboy said:
3 on centre fire and 5 on rim fire-----Cowboy

^^ what Cowboy said ^^

I don't have any heavy barrel centre fire rifles so I don't see much point in watching accuracey go south as the barrel heats up on the fourth or fifth round ;)
 
I usually shoot 3 round groups but I shoot a couple to get some consistence, If I shoot 5 round groups I take notice of the first three because some rifle do tend to wander when they heat up . I learned the hard way on more than one group , I had a load with my hawkins that looked great until I went to check the rifle for hunting season, when I found out that nice little 3 round group was a fluke they were all over and even keyholing .
 
Sometimes I shoot a three shot group set the gun aside and rotate other guns while it cools, when that gun rotates around again I shoot another three shot group at the same target so I have a six shot group, rotate again and so forth, sometimes I wind up with 12 or 15+ shot group. That will tell me on average what I can expect from that gun with a particular load. One or two seperate three shot groups by themselves can be very misleading. Other times I shoot a couple five shot groups, if something looks promising I'll repeat it over and over till I'm confident with that load. I wouldn't go to a match banking on the results of a couple three shot groups.
 
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