30-06 bullet test for 220 grains and 200 grains

SuperCub said:
I agree with this statement but the thing about gel is that it offers a consistent medium so all bullets will be subjected to the same impact stresses.

Shooting at game will never be exactly consistent. One might hit a bigger bone at a different angle at a different velocity and thus see different results with the same bullet. There's no clear right answer to this debate.
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it does amaze me that some don't understand this or the benefit of it, we have over a century of knowns, proven winners, a subjective understanding....so if you standardize (gel) etc. and compare all of them we can then see what else will also be a winner and why others won't be, comparing 'on game' is just adding more subjective noise and we have over a century of that anyway

as for stories, I know a 123 gr 6.5 eld-m impacting a sharp quartering away buck at 2100 fps can take the last rib on way in and leave 81% of bullet in the last bit of meat at the front of the brisket after 18" of penetration...when you match construction, appropriate for game sd, and impact velocities for that construction you get wonderful results, don't overdrive the squishy bullets and it's a wonderful thing, I also know that same bullet impacting in the 23-2400 fps range will be more like 50-60% retained, although most of the time on broadside stuff we don't get a chance to find out as it exits and also know that at 1700 fps impact it is a perfect mushroom appearing to weigh about 95% of what it started from someone else's example....so you have to be able to visualize things out for certain bullets as it's a range, the depth of penetration will vary a few inches but still adequate in close but actually goes deeper and maintains it the further you go out as it retains more of it's sd

so my subjective example says the specific .25 sd eldm example here will range between 50-95% retention from 2400-1700 fps and subjective guess on all I've seen will be 18-24" penetration range, if you wanna run a bullet like that hotter and maintain those penetrations you'll want to start with more sd...basic logic, or use tougher bullets, the range of performance and options and we didn't touch on the subjective point of what happens when you dump a bunch of bullet upset inside the animal like that? more drt's and short recoveries vs delayed controlled expansion bullets that dump as much or more of their 'work' in the hillside after passing on through, we all come to prefer something on this journey, it is a dynamic range of performance but we'd come to find so many options we use overlap but...

wouldn't it be slick if we had calculators and the right numbers to look at of all bullets compared to each other to see this objectively and save about 30 pages off all these threads and make choosing so much quicker and easier? ;)
 
I love the discussion here about the 220GR Core-Lokt as I managed to snag 2 boxes from Cabela's this winter when I saw it in stock. I think there is no question about its lethality on large game such as moose, which is what I plan on using it for this fall.

My question though is should I stick with the 175GR Terminal Ascents that I used last season? The reason I am asking is the TA's have a higher muzzle velocity and much better BC so I won't need to compensate as much if I need to shoot in the 300yds range. Within 200yds the difference in bullet drop is fairly negligible.

Cheers, RecentPhase
 
Drops probably going to be about 11-12 inches? Thats not too bad on a target the size of a moose.

Gonna say (just in my mind) the TA is a better bullet all around but that in no way means a foot of drop at 300 yards is undoable, and that bullet at 1800 fps should still open up okay I'm thinking? Big old exposed lead nose like that?

Shouldn't be askin too much to blow his vitals out. How likely is that kinda range (knowing full well Murphy always gets a vote lol)?
 
We will most likely be shooting within 200yds as the area is mostly heavily forested with quite a bit of swamp in the mix. Lots of cut blocks in the area is why I'm thinking it may open up to the 300yd range.
 
RecentPhase said:
I love the discussion here about the 220GR Core-Lokt as I managed to snag 2 boxes from Cabela's this winter when I saw it in stock. I think there is no question about its lethality on large game such as moose, which is what I plan on using it for this fall.

My question though is should I stick with the 175GR Terminal Ascents that I used last season? The reason I am asking is the TA's have a higher muzzle velocity and much better BC so I won't need to compensate as much if I need to shoot in the 300yds range. Within 200yds the difference in bullet drop is fairly negligible.

Cheers, RecentPhase
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I've always been wanting to try the 220 just can't find right now .
I'm using the TA as well
But as for you , stay with the 175 TA and sell me a box of 220 rem.
Then we both have
:)
 
I can't remember what I sent, I see I mentioned 220 partitions. If you have a record of what was sent by whom, then you can put them back in the mail. Components are hard to come by.
 
This note is almost 2 years later then the last post... Reason being, I just found this thread and have been wondering about the 200 & 220 grain bullet tests... Respectfully, Have the tests been done - or is it still on hold...?
 
Don't know about the tests. But a 220 Hornady round nose interlock, are a hell of a round for the 30-06. The partition is not needed at the velocities you will be running them at.

New powders such as staball 6.5, reloder 23, and 26, will start getting you over 2500fps. Which is nothing to sneeze at with that heavy of a bullet, and insane sectional density.
 
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