30-06 heavy loads?

[mackillan]

I read the following on another board:

"I also like availability of a wide range of factory loads for the 06; they also have a few High Energy and Light Magnum factory loads now that will deliver 7mm REM MAG velocities and energies out to 500 yards. I know it’s not that much of a difference but I prefer a larger caliber when pursuing large game such as elk. I'd say moose too but I haven’t yet had the opportunity to hunt them."

How realistic is this?

 

[stubblejumper]

I have chronographed the light magnum loads in three rifles,and none delivered the listed velocity,although they did deliver more velocity than some other factory loads.Then again,you can also get heavy magnum loads for the 7mm remmag that offer more velocity than most 7mmremmag factory loads.The bottom line is that a 30-06 is ballistically not a 7mm remmag,and it never will be.

 

[BC Bigbore]

But no game shot with either will no the difference

 

[mackillan]

Very true but lil boys like myself love fancier toys. My grandpa used to blast em with a .303 and I used a 30-06 for years. Since Ben has me hooked on the sharps they are even more fun lol. Mostly its just boredom. I have a huge scotch collection but dont partake much and dont philander so what else is there lol. I need a life. I live 1.5 miles from the range and thats my life except for hockey games, dogs and poetry. I love to try out new guns. My nephews sure like to get the old ones handed down lol

 

[BC Bigbore]

The .30-06 was my choice for keeping our freezer full of moose meat & deer for many years After I got into handloading, I built up heavy loads with Sierra 220gr RNSP bullets for those times when a size 11 boot fits nicely inside the recently made bear tracks you just stumbled across at dusk, 3 miles from the truck Never had to use those "stoppers" but I had no doubt they would work fine...provided I could hit the target

 

[BigUglyMan]

My freezer runneth over thanks to my '06 and 180 NPTs...and IMR 4350!

 

[Homesteader]

My heaviest load is 200g hotcor at 2660 from 22" barrel, my do all load is a 180g Partition at around 2750. Haven't chronyd any light mags thou. The first two listed will smite anything you aim em at.

 

[Eagleye]

My present 30-06 is a M700 SS. It is uncommonly accurate with any bullet weight I feed it. My pet "heavy" load is the 200 Partition over enough Norma MRP to get me 2700+ FPS. I have not recovered one of these bullets from a moose yet, so penetration is fine, every bit as good as the 175 Partition from a 7 Mag. Regards, Eagleye.

 

[Ganderite]

The Hornady Light magnums are real. They deliver more velocity than can otherwise be done at normal pressures. They use a very large charge of slow ball powder that is very heavily compresed in a supporting die before the case is shaped and necked.

If I had a 30-06 and figured I really needed a 300 Win mag for one hunt, this would be the cheap way to get some extra power.

I have only pressure tested the 308 Light Magbum. I was impressed. The lab was baffled.

 

[H4831]

My present 30-06 is a M700 SS. It is uncommonly accurate with any bullet weight I feed it. My pet "heavy" load is the 200 Partition over enough Norma MRP to get me 2700+ FPS. I have not recovered one of these bullets from a moose yet, so penetration is fine, every bit as good as the 175 Partition from a 7 Mag. Regards, Eagleye.

"Eagleye," I also chronographed 2700 with the 200 grain Nosler, while mine are loaded with virtually the same powder, but called Norma 205.

 

[todbartell]

Ive shot 200 gr TSX in 30-06 with H4831sc for 2550 fps and decent accuracy. It was my 'grizz load' when I took my 30-06 as backup a couple years ago on a spring grizz hunt

 

[mackillan]

Could they do a similar load to jack up a 7mm mag?

The Hornady Light magnums are real. They deliver more velocity than can otherwise be done at normal pressures. They use a very large charge of slow ball powder that is very heavily compresed in a supporting die before the case is shaped and necked.

If I had a 30-06 and figured I really needed a 300 Win mag for one hunt, this would be the cheap way to get some extra power.

I have only pressure tested the 308 Light Magbum. I was impressed. The lab was baffled.

 

[Ganderite]

Seems to me the 7 Rem mag is already "jacked up". Don't know what they offer.

 

[MTM]

06-7mm

"Eagleye," I also chronographed 2700 with the 200 grain Nosler, while mine are loaded with virtually the same powder, but called Norma 205.

Its not polite to mention 205 unless you have enough for everyone. I'd take an 06 with a 200 gr premium over a 7mm for big stuff every time. O.K. you 7mm/140 guys can ##### all you want.

 

[mackillan]

What is the largest grain bullet that the 7mm rem mag will shoot efficiently?

Its not polite to mention 205 unless you have enough for everyone. I'd take an 06 with a 200 gr premium over a 7mm for big stuff every time. O.K. you 7mm/140 guys can ##### all you want.

 

[Longwalker]

Mackillan, 175 grains is normally the high end of bullet weight for the 7mm bore. A few boutique makers sell heavier, but not all rifles will shoot them well.

 

[mudgunner49]

What is the largest grain bullet that the 7mm rem mag will shoot efficiently?

Factory stuff, either loaded or components is IIRC 175, however I have a partial box somewhere around here of a custom bullet that I found at an estate auction years back that are 200 gr. There may be something heavier out there but I don't know of any...


blake

 

[mackillan]

175 should be ok for Moose, eh? I have traditionally used 30-06 180 for moose at a slower velocity.

 

[Curt]

The moose won't know the difference if you shoot it in the same spot with either. Dead is always, dead.

 

[Curt]

I guess in theory, same weighted projectiles, .284 and .308, the .284 will have a higher sectional density which is one factor effecting penetration.
See above.
On the other hand. You should have both a 7mm and a .30-06. And several loads worked out for both, on either end of the bullet weight for calibre spectrum. Makes good gun-nutz sense.