winchester1852
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The 30-06 is only boring if you make it so, just like everything else.
30-06 is boring
- Thread starter Jeronimoe83
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I've never cared much what 95% of hunters could or couldn't do; but there is some real advantages to performance calibers. When I use my 30-06s with subtention reticles at 400 I'm on the third crosshair and sort of glad I have a rangefinder. At 500 I'm on the fifth. With a 7STW, .257 Weatherby, 270 Weatherby . 270 WSM, the .300s with the right bullets or any number of interesting cartridges I can hold centre of chest from zero to 400 and pull the trigger. A top of back hold takes them to 500 more or less. No muss, no fuss, no rangefinder no problem. Some on that list recoil no more than a 30-06 and if they happen to burn a dime's worth more powder I'll probably make it back on the bullets. Zero to 400 on one crosshair is boring too; but it's good boring. 3 crosshairs and a rangefinder to 400 is lame-ass boring.
pete dobinson
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Your in the 5% that can exploit the performance of a magnum. Most of us aren't. I agree with you that a magnum at long range has an advantage, but not all hunting is at long range and a 30-06 is capable up to 500 yds in the hands of a competent shooter. I don't own a 30-06, I never have. My hunting partners got a remington mountain rifle, with a 22" barrel, chambered in 30-06. It's a beater of a rifle. The scope on it is a leupold vx3 3.5-10 with a ballistic turret. He can hit a 2.5 ltr jug at 500 yds on a regular basis. Mind you we use range finders. I have magnums as well, 300 win, 308 norma, and 7mm wsm and would like to get a 28 nosler one of these days. I've been reloading for 30 years and a 30-06 IMO is a bloody good cartridge. Not all of us are flat landers.I've never cared much what 95% of hunters could or couldn't do; but there is some real advantages to performance calibers. When I use my 30-06s with subtention reticles at 400 I'm on the third crosshair and sort of glad I have a rangefinder. At 500 I'm on the fifth. With a 7STW, .257 Weatherby, 270 Weatherby . 270 WSM, the .300s with the right bullets or any number of interesting cartridges I can hold centre of chest from zero to 400 and pull the trigger. A top of back hold takes them to 500 more or less. No muss, no fuss, no rangefinder no problem. Some on that list recoil no more than a 30-06 and if they happen to burn a dime's worth more powder I'll probably make it back on the bullets. Zero to 400 on one crosshair is boring too; but it's good boring. 3 crosshairs and a rangefinder to 400 is lame-ass boring.
if you have 2 or more 30-06 s turn one into a NEW and IMPROVED 30-06 called a 338-06 A Square ! If you only have one do it to it too ! RJ
Jeronimoe83
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30-06 is boring guys. Sorry, truth hurts.
nomad 68
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Unless your hunting the prairies or longer ranges in the mountains, you will never notice the advantage a bigger cartridge over a .30/06. A moose killed at 400 yds with a .30/06, is just as dead as one killed with anything else. This is a long distance in the majority of regions of the country.i prefer my .270 to my .30/06. But only because it is lighter recoiling.
sharp shooter
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- Essex county (Ontario)
Biggest load of sh_t I’ve read in a long time. Go back to you video games.
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I concur.
Nothing like winning friends and influencing people with your insightful comment, newbie.
Replaced? Replaced by whom, the military? IIRC, the military replaced it for a smaller/shorter cartridge (308 & 223) so ammo would be smaller enabling the bearer to carry more. This and less recoil was the real driver for the military to go to the 223. To say the 30-06 is obsolete is laughable esp for civilian use.
I hope you're trolling, because this list is ridiculous.
The .222 Remington is a scaled down 30-06. The 223/5.56 is a direct derivative of the 222. So the 30-06 has parentage of all NATO small arms except pistol cartridges, up to 50 BMG.
An old saying about the 44-40 that it has killed more men, good and bad, and more game, good and bad, than any other cartridge. If anything this is even more true about the 30-06.
Call me crazy but I'll choose boring every time if 30-06 = Boring.
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"The following year Hathcock deployed to South Vietnam with the 1st Marine Division, where he was soon assigned sniper duties. His primary rifle was one of the Corps’ Winchester Model 70 target rifles, chambered in 30-06 and topped with an 8-power Unertl target scope in an externally adjustable mount."
http://www.winchesterguns.com/news/articles/winchester-model-70-in-vietnam.html
"...the 300-plus Model 70 rifles purchased by the Marine Corps during World War II remained in inventory...Many of these were subsequently rebuilt between circa 1956 and 1963, primarily at the Marine Corps’ “Match Rebuild Shop” in Albany, Ga....consisted of replacing the original “sporter” barrels with heavier 24- or 26-inch barrels and replacing the stocks as necessary,..."
” The Model 70’s suitability as a sniping rifle during the Vietnam War should be unquestioned, as the most famous and revered sniper of the war, Carlos Hathcock, used the rifle with remarkable effectiveness."
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2011/3/21/the-military-model-70/
"WHITE FEATHER AND THE M2
Though the practice had been in use since the Korean War, Carlos Hathcock made the use of the M2 .50 caliber machine gun as a long-range sniper weapon a normal practice. He designed a rifle mount, built by Navy Seabees, which allowed him to easily convert the weapon.
"I was sent to see if that would work," He recalled. "We were elevated on a mountain with bad guys all over. I was there three days, observing. On the third day, I zeroed at 1000 yards, longest 2500. Here comes the hamburger, came right across the spot where it was zeroed, he bent over to brush his teeth and I let it fly. If he hadn't stood up, it would have gone over his head. But it didn't." The distance of that shot was 2,460 yards – almost a mile and a half – and it stood as a record until broken in 2002 by Canadian sniper Arron Perry in Afghanistan."
https://www.military.com/marine-corps-birthday/carlos-hathcock-famous-marine-corps-sniper.html
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http://www.winchesterguns.com/news/articles/winchester-model-70-in-vietnam.html
"...the 300-plus Model 70 rifles purchased by the Marine Corps during World War II remained in inventory...Many of these were subsequently rebuilt between circa 1956 and 1963, primarily at the Marine Corps’ “Match Rebuild Shop” in Albany, Ga....consisted of replacing the original “sporter” barrels with heavier 24- or 26-inch barrels and replacing the stocks as necessary,..."
” The Model 70’s suitability as a sniping rifle during the Vietnam War should be unquestioned, as the most famous and revered sniper of the war, Carlos Hathcock, used the rifle with remarkable effectiveness."
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2011/3/21/the-military-model-70/
"WHITE FEATHER AND THE M2
Though the practice had been in use since the Korean War, Carlos Hathcock made the use of the M2 .50 caliber machine gun as a long-range sniper weapon a normal practice. He designed a rifle mount, built by Navy Seabees, which allowed him to easily convert the weapon.
"I was sent to see if that would work," He recalled. "We were elevated on a mountain with bad guys all over. I was there three days, observing. On the third day, I zeroed at 1000 yards, longest 2500. Here comes the hamburger, came right across the spot where it was zeroed, he bent over to brush his teeth and I let it fly. If he hadn't stood up, it would have gone over his head. But it didn't." The distance of that shot was 2,460 yards – almost a mile and a half – and it stood as a record until broken in 2002 by Canadian sniper Arron Perry in Afghanistan."
https://www.military.com/marine-corps-birthday/carlos-hathcock-famous-marine-corps-sniper.html
White Feather at work
