30-06 load

sunray said:
59.5 of IMR4350 is 1.5 to 2 over max for a 150, according to Hodgdon. Max being 58.0. H4350 runs to 62.0. Both are compressed. Compressed not being a big deal.
Partial to IMR4064 for .30-06 and 165 or 168 grain bullets.
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Hornady list 59.9 gr of IMR4350 under 150gr. bullet as max.
 
Max loads in any manual should always be approached from below watching for pressure signs as charge weights are increased. What is a max load in one rifle may display excessive pressure signs in another with the same components. With a 150gr bullet in the .30-06 you can get to pretty much the same MV an IMR4350 with several grains less of IMR4064 or IMR4895, a bit of a consideration for the recoil sensitive or those who want to economise on powder. Best accuracy is often found at less than top MV and animals die from accurate bullets, not necessarily from the fastest ones.
 
Dogleg said:
It takes some people years to figure that out, and some never get it at all. Often when people first get access to a chronograph they discover that their load is all over the place for velocity but groups great at 100. Often enough they claim they "proved" that ES doesn't mean anything, but what they actually "proved" is that 100 yards doesn't mean anything.
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I agree completely. Everybody that hunts, and plans on shooting at game past 100 yards should practice at the distances they intend to shoot. 100 yards doesn't mean much to me either when working on a load.

I have a few loads that shoot .5 moa all day long at 100 but open up at 200 to about 3". Out of the same gun I have a few loads that are .75 moa at 100 that only open up to 1.5 moa at 200.
 
Ya but then you get the guys shooting beside you at the range at 100 yds and can't keep three round on paper, or a 5 inch spread>and say that's good enough for me! I happy I can keep them together at 100. But like you say going I'm going to try the load at longer ranges for sure. Thanks
 
Thats a nice group there, I'm sure it will be fine out further but it doesn't hurt to check. Is that with IMR4350 or H4350 that you are using? I had bad luck with H4350 in my 06. It sure does love RL15 though. If for chance you move up to a heavier bullet and your 4350 doesn't group as well, try RL15.
 
Your Group looks very good, if you can consistently produce groups like that then I would leave well enough alone. Interesting thread as I have used and loaded for the 30-06 since the early seventies but have done very little experimentation as I felt I did not have to. I struck upon using 57 gr of IMR 4350 under a 165 gr. Nosler Partition on the advice of a fella who taught me the basics of reloading. It was very accurate out of my then M-70 and dropped moose without issue. So I never experimented any further over the years as I did not see the sense in trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak with a load that was working very well for me. My two newer 30-06's ( M-70 and a Kimber) also seem to like the load although I have tried a few different powders and bullet weights without any notable improvements. But like others I have noticed that max, or close to it powder loads do seem produce better accuracy. Now that I am retired it is something I want to play around with more as I have the time. Since moving I still have not got my new reloading room set up so all my stuff is still in boxes, but I am getting close to solving that issue.
 
badbrass said:
I just got a Tikka 695 a few months ago in 30-06, and put on a Leopold VX-2 4X12X40 on it.
Got to this load: 59.5 of IMR 4350, 150gr. Hornady bullet
which is close to max loading. would you say ( Good Enough )
or go closer to max load? I know I pulled on the second round which is away from the other 4, ( 5 rounds) Reloading gets into your blood.
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I would venture to say you are good to go hunting! Since you are using 4350, be sure to give it a try with some 180 gr spitzers. Starting with 55 gr, and working up, it wont be long until you have a very fine long range load.


H4831 said:
Too much common sense on this post!
Remember, this is the internet and 1 MOA hunting rifles are old school and certainly not accurate enough for modern hunting.
You just got to find that sweet spot.
Oops, I almost forgot. This is the internet, so a good keyboard will accurise any rifle.
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Yes Sir! My personal standard for hunting rifles is that they group five shots into less than five inches at 300 meters on any day they are taken to the range. That's 328 yards, and any rifle that will do that is adequate for any big game hunting for me.

Having said that, I have put two animals in the freezer that were standing over 500 yds away. Both times it took just one shot. One was a huge bull moose with a 130 gr Silvertip in a 270 Winchester. The other a 41" Dall ram, using a 150 gr Speer spitzer in a 280 Remington.

Ted
 
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