30-.06 -- what should I buy?
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BeaverMeat
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- Nanaimo, B.C.
An often overlooked rifle. Fairly accurate, light, and points like a shotgun... but it's not for everyone.
If i were to drop 2 grand on a 30/06
https://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/verney-carron-impact-affut-plus-bolt-action-rifle-30-06
https://www.tradeexcanada.com/content/verney-carron-impact-affut-plus-bolt-action-rifle-30-06
Its a 270 Winchester, thats why. I haven't chrony'd it yet, but the book says 2809 fps from 51.6gr out of a 24" barrel, so I'm guessing ballpark around 2750 from my 22" barrel.
50m test target. Not exactly the greatest group, certainly not bad though. Not a bad looking rifle either.
Rem 760/7600
The barrel is full floating. These are better than average accuracy, out of the box and nothing can go wrong (liked warped wood on a bolt action.)
If you are classically oriented, buy a Husky from Tradex.
The barrel is full floating. These are better than average accuracy, out of the box and nothing can go wrong (liked warped wood on a bolt action.)
If you are classically oriented, buy a Husky from Tradex.
hometownhero
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Ah that makes a bit more sense
They are both milled from billet and not cast at least, and cost very little. Not too into new guns however...PH/HVA/BSA pretty much fill my safe, with a few Howa/Vanguards in the mix, one 783, no Axis anymore but they are a good buy for a beater gun.
I wonder how they can do that and retail for $400, while the Ruger is $1000 using a cheaper manufacturing process? Hmmm lol.
I actually just picked up a Sabatti Rover, and to my disappointment it is mostly cast as well. Did not read the fine print close enough I guess.... pretty enough for $600.
Investment casting is not a cheaper process.
Machining from billet can be cheaper or can be more expensive depending on the level of precision and finishing. The Ruger American is machined, and it is cheaper than the investment cast M77. The Ruger No. 1 is regarded as the strongest commercial action on the market, and guess what, investment cast. Is the GP 100 weak compared to S&W offerings?
Ruger uses investment casting to make parts for aerospace and nuclear reactors. It is not a cheap process.
There are machined from billet rifles that are made to a higher standard than any Ruger of course; but, investment cast rifles are not cheap to make and are made to a standard higher than the cheaper fully machined rifles on the market.
We have been down this road in this forum a few times though. Whatever your opinion I don't think you should dismiss the process as cheap or inferior.
I see someone has done his research.... well done....
As for those that have not, google Pine ridge casting.... and do a little research into how investment grade casting is done......
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There is no reason to not expect ANY rifle to shoot in 2018...... manufacturing processes and equipment have multiplied exponencially over the last ten years.....
I think it's great that manufacturers make budget rifles that allow people to get into hunting on the cheap...... and still offer accurate rigs....
My problem with these rigs, and that includes the Ruger American, is that they skimp in some of the most stupid places possible.....
For example, the Axis...... the replacement mags are ridiculous in price... and yet they are held into the rifle with cheap plastic..... is spring steel really all that expensive?
The Ruger American RETAILS for less, what it costs to produce vs a No1 or M77 is what I'm talking about. Fit/finish is terrible on the American however, which actually fits well with Rugers overpriced quality you get these days from them.
I wouldn't have as much of an issue if they would finish machine the entire piece rather then leave it "as casted". That is what I'm talking about being "cheap" on their end.
This here... this is grotesque compared to a S&W.
The Ruger American RETAILS for less, what it costs to produce vs a No1 or M77 is what I'm talking about. Fit/finish is terrible on the American however, which actually fits well with Rugers overpriced quality you get these days from them.
I wouldn't have as much of an issue if they would finish machine the entire piece rather then leave it "as casted". That is what I'm talking about being "cheap" on their end.
This here... this is grotesque compared to a S&W.
English please?..... and source for your costs?......
I get it, you got a sh!!ty ruger american and now you have a boner on for the company and think tradex husky's are the solution to all of life's problems......
You don't think this is gross? You wouldn't puke if you dropped $1200 on one only to take it apart and see this?
I'm not sure how anyone can say casting a part and leaving it unfinished is more expensive to produce then milling every sq/mm of a solid forged block of steel.
NEA also makes stuff for "NASA" so not sure that means much.
For the record, I think the 10/22 (pre plastic trigger groups) are great, MKII pistols are great, they do these 2 rimfires very well. Can't say any of the centerfire pistols, revolvers, or rifles are worth anywhere near the retail prices... massive ripoff if you appreciate quality.
The Ruger American RETAILS for less, what it costs to produce vs a No1 or M77 is what I'm talking about. Fit/finish is terrible on the American however, which actually fits well with Rugers overpriced quality you get these days from them.
I wouldn't have as much of an issue if they would finish machine the entire piece rather then leave it "as casted". That is what I'm talking about being "cheap" on their end.
This here... this is grotesque compared to a S&W.
This is my point. The process of investment casting is not cheap. The fit, finish and precision of final assembly is where the money is spent whether it is investment cast or machined.
Ruger's fit and finish falls on a spectrum along with its retail prices. It's casting process is quality and not cheap or inferior. It's finished product is a matter of opinion just like every other maker on the market.
I already have a good idea what your reply will be but for the sake of the rest of us easterners please expand for us what hunting in the Yukon is really like.
I've seen few guns from your parts and they looked well used. Not a lot of rain there but planes and boats seem to factor in a bit.
SC.......you have hunted the Yukon so I'm not sure what it is you are asking. A poster ahead of me asked what type of action the OP was looking for after he very clearly said a bolt gun in his original post. Then he asked if he would be pushing bush, stand or blind hunting.
I have never seen or heard of any of these techniques being used in the Yukon as we have no whitetail and very limited draw for mulies. These techniques don't work too well for caribou, moose or sheep and we are not allowed to bait bears so they don't apply there either. All hunting in the Yukon is spot and stalk, whether from a vehicle, boat, on foot or fly in and back pack or any combination of the previous.
Can't push bush because it is endless and there just is no where to push game out to, where it is open and one could get a shot........plus it is also illegal to party hunt in the Yukon.
BeaverMeat
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- Nanaimo, B.C.
Good answer. If I am sitting while hunting moose it's because I am in a canoe or on a horse. Otherwise It is a combo of being on foot and snowmobile/ATV. I hunt for food and can't pay for a plane to fly me around.
Yeah, I was thinking about this and I would rather lose a few bullets than a whole magazine in a foot of snow.
