I bought a few of these to sell local and am surprised at the quality for the price. Very nice rifles. And they take the common Rem 700 scope bases. They also have the iron sights should your scope fail. Don't see that commonly on rifles nowadays.
30-.06 -- what should I buy?
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I bought a few of these to sell local and am surprised at the quality for the price. Very nice rifles. And they take the common Rem 700 scope bases. They also have the iron sights should your scope fail. Don't see that commonly on rifles nowadays.
Don’t think Twice I’d go buy a Kimber hunter and be done with it they have a nice no loose magazine arrangement and a whole bunch of other amenities the others don’t still leaves you with some coin for a great quality scope and go for and shoot shoot shoot
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why get the stock? $600 you will get one with a perfectly good stock. The sloped European stock has its advantages. If you need a higher comb just get a nice leather riser.
I just googled them - look very interesting for the price. I'd be tempted to try one. I think for the Yukon, I'd go wooden stock if I were going out in winter.
The stock is only how I would go - not due to shape (I have several hogback stocks and really like them) - the stock is a worthy upgrade mostly due to the issue of the husky stocks being prone to cracking at the tang (yes I know there are remedies for this). The toughness and cold weather stability of a bell and Carlson make it a worthy upgrade for cold weather spot and stalk hunting, especially if it will be the op's only rifle for that purpose.
That's just how I would go. Opinions and conclusions may vary.
Sorry, I wasn't calling you out or flaming you. I just wanted you to explain the real differences there are between western hunting and how we have to do it here.
You did fully answer as seen below.
Eastern "still hunting" is more like upland hunting. Shorter guns with low powered scopes carried at the ready position. When I was in the Yukon, I was asked not to even have a cartridge chambered in the rifle until there was to be a shot and there was lots of time to do that. I prefer your style over ours.
A booted dealer has Sabatti on sale with free shipping...$625 for blued/walnut in common cartridges.
Few issues with the blued/walnut one I had.
First the cast receiver is not very nice, and causes the action to be rough. Bolt was very stiff to open, culprit was the pin holding the cocking piece to firing pin was not ground flush and was scraping the inside of the shroud. Fixed it myself, but you do need a firing pin disassembly tool. Trigger is adjustable but you can only move the screw out a wee bit, otherwise the mag release hits it and won't drop mags (just a dumb design there). Rear tang is bedded with some kind of grey epoxy, looks bad with the brown stock.
Will get out shooting it this weekend hopefully.
That's disappointing. I thought they were more of a quality toy than that. I was under the impression their shotguns are very high-quality. Thanx for the info, I was seriously thinking of getting one. What action are they built on?
Proprietary action, kind of a combination Win M70 and other designs thrown in.
You can still give one a go, they are not expensive and I'm sure you could flip it later if you didn't like it for little loss.
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No flaming taken there SC, all good. No slight to the eastern hunters, it's just that if they have never seen or hunted the Yukon they have no idea of the vastness or the mountains or the impractibility of the eastern methods of hunting. These vast differences dictate significantly different rifles for best suitability for terrain, game, and methods employed. We also have far less game per sq mile than the eastern hardwoods so laying in wait could be a very long and uncomfortable proposition. I would also say that although not all are super long shots the average shot would be 2-3-5 X as long as the eastern hardwoods. As you also noted a loaded rifle is not necessary as there is virtually no "jump shooting" of any game in the Yukon, hence a floor plate or blind magazine is of little hindrance there and negates the possibility of expensive lost magazines and single shot repeater rifles.
Bolt guns are KING in the Yukon and I can't say I know a single hunter that hunts with a pump or semi. I have hunted quite a bit with a Ruger #1 and I know of a few lever guns that are employed, but I would say 95%+ of all game taken in the Yukon is with bolt guns. They are without a doubt the best suited action for the style of hunting the Yukon offers.
As for the OP's questions, I would not personally choose a 30-06 however in doing so, he has made available to himself virtually every model and configuration of every rifle made in NA and much of Europe. His choices are limitless, a position to be envied or feared depending on your personality.
As to Ruger cost effectiveness and quality of manufacture, I don't believe this is the appropriate thread to have this discussion as it answers none of the OP's questions. The same with investment cast vs machined billet, again it answers none of his questions. He is free to inspect the large inventory of rifles at the LGS and decide for himself what fit and finish meets his standards for dollars spent. I must also say, it is refreshing to see a realistic budget for a quality firearm as opposed to "What's the best rifle I can get for under 500 bucks including scope and rings" as is the usual question posed on this sight.
Good shopping and good hunting Yukonsour........
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I would concur. You can save a few bucks going with the featherweight M-70, to allow for more wiggle room. They are very good quality rifles for the money. I am a tad prejudice since I have had M-70's since the early seventies.
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One of my best shooting rifles is one of the cheapest I bought. A Savage 111FCXP in .30-06 "package gun" that I purchased for some bush hunting 20 years ago. Now relegated to being my truck gun, it is quite a shooter. Scope was replaced over the years but for the money a great rifle.
While it is true that there are more pump guns here in the east and in Ontario, there is no reason why on would not be a good choice where you are either. They have been in my experience as reliable as any bolt gun I use and quite accurate as well. I does realize that there is a lot of tradition that would prejudice one from using one esp in you part of the world and the rest of western Canada but the fact is that most who don't or won't use one havent ever tried one out. They are accurate and easy to load for. The only downside I can see is that the brass has to be FLR for reliable function and doesn't last as long. I've never had to use small base dies for any of the many I've loaded for. Most of the chamberings are easy to get brass for anyways.
One of those pumps in 35Whelen (or the 9.3 that Ted is doing) would be a perfect working gun up there.
The thing is, if they do winter hunting up there, something that works quite well at -5 may jam up tighter than a nun's *&(&*^ at -40. I had an Ithaca 900 (recoil operated) and a 51 (gas) that worked great at around 0, but anything below -20 and I had pretty much a single shot.
I realize that. I was just pointing out that a rifle that works will in weather we get here may not do so well in extreme cold.
Most hunting in the Yukon actually happens during the more temperate months of Aug, Sept and early Oct, however barren ground caribou most times don't come down until the weather is in the -30 to -45 ranges and this is where one finds out if his rifle is up to the task. My absolute coldest hunts have been for caribou, polar bear and musk ox, however the latter two were both bow taken. Now there is the late season bison hunts, which fall in the coldest months as well. It's tough to beat a good reliable turn bolt that has been properly winterized........JMHO and experience.
