30-06
- Thread starter Spruster
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Hahaha funny how things are! Seems like most think you need to get closer together or do your homework!
But yeah you are right I know nothing, I don’t even shoot guns or hunt!
Obviously you are the expert… but still need to ask the question if 30-06 is capable lol! Have fun expert!
But yeah you are right I know nothing, I don’t even shoot guns or hunt!
Obviously you are the expert… but still need to ask the question if 30-06 is capable lol! Have fun expert!
When the US Army set out the design criteria for what would become the 30-06... one of the requirements was that the new round "must be capable of killing a cavalry horse with one shot at 1000 yards"
They had very few chronographs back then but plenty of cavalry horses from what I gather
They had very few chronographs back then but plenty of cavalry horses from what I gather
Spruster, you need to slow down and think about the responses to your thread. By far the majority here post the the shooter is very much a part of the equation.
I have guided a lot of hunters over the years up here, and seen some of the best and some of the poorest shooting you can imagine. I would rather have the oldest hunter, 82 years young, I ever guided with his 250-3000 Model 99 who could handle it, than the fellow with his 338 Winchester that flinched with every shot. Jim, who was a very wealthy man, and his 250 took every animal on a mixed bag hunt with a single 100 gr factory load. The 338 was a very different story.
We all know the 30-06 is easily able to take a 400 yard elk with a proper hit. Slow down a bit, and think about the responses that are being posted to your thread.
Ted
I have guided a lot of hunters over the years up here, and seen some of the best and some of the poorest shooting you can imagine. I would rather have the oldest hunter, 82 years young, I ever guided with his 250-3000 Model 99 who could handle it, than the fellow with his 338 Winchester that flinched with every shot. Jim, who was a very wealthy man, and his 250 took every animal on a mixed bag hunt with a single 100 gr factory load. The 338 was a very different story.
We all know the 30-06 is easily able to take a 400 yard elk with a proper hit. Slow down a bit, and think about the responses that are being posted to your thread.
Ted
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With the right bullets (high BC) that can still expand some at 400 yards, yes. The old .30-06 has the power at that range. For sure.
I vote 30-06 for 400 yards, for elk. The 30-06 has proven itself to be a great all-around cartridge for North American big game. Many different bullet weights to choose from, I like the 165 grain bullets, a happy medium between the 150 and 180 grainers. I've always had great accuracy success with the old ancient girl, and still do. I might take it moose hunting this year, however, the 300 H&H needs christening for it's first moose.
Is the 30-06 a 400 yard elk cartridge? Sure, why not? That sort of makes a 300 Win a 600 yard elk cartridge and a 30-30 a 60 yard one by default.
The way I read the question though; is if the 30-06 is a real 400 yard elk cartridge. Compared to a 300 that shows up with 400 fps more at 400; close to half again as much energy at that distance or alternately the same thing on the far side of 600 (dang, half again again), not really. 50% more is something you can see.
Short answer: yes.
Long answer: yeeeeeeessssssss.
Longer answer: If you practice for the shot you'll make the shot. If you are not prepared for the shot, you shouldn't be shooting. In terms of raw ballistics, there's nothing I wouldn't shoot around these parts with a .30-06 with 180s, including elk and moose.
Long answer: yeeeeeeessssssss.
Longer answer: If you practice for the shot you'll make the shot. If you are not prepared for the shot, you shouldn't be shooting. In terms of raw ballistics, there's nothing I wouldn't shoot around these parts with a .30-06 with 180s, including elk and moose.
20 years on average to get a tag on draw here ... i never shot one but i did a few smaller version of it the: red deer ... in poland (close to the ukraine border) recommendations made by the hunting clubs were for 300 win mag as the 30-06 may be short on oomph ... needless to say 300 wea mag and 8x68s are working great as well ... myself never had any issues with the ones shot with a 300hh, 300 wea and 9.3x62 but again not elk ...
Downed lots of Elk closest ~100m furthest ~500m & in between smallest caliber used .35 Whelen works pretty good 100~200m haven't tried it at longer ranges yet looking forward to downing many more see if I can do better than my 6x7.
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