.30-30 - Cause of restricted classification?

I would trash that certificate. Gun is not restricted in any way.
No long gun registry either other than Quebec..End of the story.

Still need to clear the discrepancy with it, by getting it verified. Sure it meet the requirement of a NR, but it got a registration of restricted attached to it, by fault or by accident. That could run the OP into legal battles over an error.

My very first rifle I bought legally from a gun store, is smashed in pieces. Because what it was registered as, wasn't what it was.
 
Why because you say so, wait until I put a folding stock on it. You guys who are narrow minded are going to lose it. :)

It is ugly and 3030 really has no practicality in the tactical world. It was just made for those, Blackhawk tactical vest and gloves, that tacticool a SKS, and need to have rails on everything. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a SAA with a light rail on it, and muzzle brake.
 
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My very first rifle I bought legally from a gun store, is smashed in pieces. Because what it was registered as, wasn't what it was.

This is a rough story, and exactly the scenario I cannot risk realizing; having the rifle will mean too much to risk losing it (nor do I want any legal issues!).

Thank you all for your feedback, I will eventually circle back with how the situation resolves.

Happy hunting!
 
It is ugly and 3030 really has no practicality in the tactical world. It was just made for those, Blackhawk tactical vest and gloves, that tacticool a SKS, and need to have rails on everything. I wouldn't be surprised if they made a SAA with a light rail on it, and muzzle brake.

Lol. "It was made for those", keep dividing that should get you the win. Talk about ugly.
 
Is it possible that the rifle had been previously modified to "restricted" and then restored to original non-restricted? If so it will have to be verified for reclassification. However, I can't imagine the circumstances whereby a C.O or LEO would run the serial number of a Winchester lever action rifle to check the classification... they would assume it was non-restricted, like the rest of us here.

As far as I am aware there is no mechanism in the laws that would permit a Non-Restricted manual action to become restricted. No combination of reducing barrel length, reducing overall length or anything else results in anything other than either a Non-Restricted or a Prohibited classification.
 
As far as I am aware there is no mechanism in the laws that would permit a Non-Restricted manual action to become restricted. No combination of reducing barrel length, reducing overall length or anything else results in anything other than either a Non-Restricted or a Prohibited classification.

It probably was a miss communication when the LGR was around. Maybe a incorrect reg cert # number. As logs were written in books, and things done over the phone.

When I had to transfer my Marlin from CT, the log book was nearly doctor writing.
 
As far as I am aware there is no mechanism in the laws that would permit a Non-Restricted manual action to become restricted. No combination of reducing barrel length, reducing overall length or anything else results in anything other than either a Non-Restricted or a Prohibited classification.

there are 2 Chaippa mares legs.. one NR with a 12 inch barrel amd an R with a 9.
you could also take a Rem 700 and make your own xp100 which would be restricted.
 
there are 2 Chaippa mares legs.. one NR with a 12 inch barrel amd an R with a 9.
you could also take a Rem 700 and make your own xp100 which would be restricted.

Neither the 9” Mares Leg, nor the XP100 are considered restricted based on features. They are restricted because they were deemed (or sold as) Handguns. Handguns are universally Restricted or Prohibited (or antique, but that’s another matter entirely). Making an XP100 clone with a rifle action wouldn’t necessarily make it restricted, unless it was deemed to be a handgun. However dropping an XP100 into a rifle stock and a rifle length barrel wouldn’t change it’s restricted classification. Once a handgun, always a handgun. Similarly, if the 9” had a full stock, it’s unlikely to be considered a handgun. Same story as the various short shotguns. A full-stock 9” (or 7” or whatever they have) shotgun is fine, while one with a single handed grip is considered to be a handgun.
 
Neither the 9” Mares Leg, nor the XP100 are considered restricted based on features. They are restricted because they were deemed (or sold as) Handguns. Handguns are universally Restricted or Prohibited (or antique, but that’s another matter entirely). Making an XP100 clone with a rifle action wouldn’t necessarily make it restricted, unless it was deemed to be a handgun. However dropping an XP100 into a rifle stock and a rifle length barrel wouldn’t change it’s restricted classification. Once a handgun, always a handgun. Similarly, if the 9” had a full stock, it’s unlikely to be considered a handgun. Same story as the various short shotguns. A full-stock 9” (or 7” or whatever they have) shotgun is fine, while one with a single handed grip is considered to be a handgun.

Taking a 700 action and building an XP 100 clone does not make it a handgun.. it makes it a restricted rifle under 26 inches overall, only becomes prohibited if the barrel was cut vs manufactured short.Handguns are originally manufactured as handguns and original registration says so, a rifle cannot become a handgun just as a handgun cannot become a rifle.
Unlikely the 3030 was ever modified to such an extent, but to say it's not possible to make a manual NR into a restricted is erroneous.
and your shotgun does not become a handgun, it becomes a restricted firearm, not all restricteds are handguns.
 
Probably no need to get it verified if it is a standard Win. 94 with a 20 inch barrel . Just call the firearms center in Miramichi , and they can probably verify it over the phone with a few questions , and correct the reg. certificate to non restricted . Sounds like a typo . or someone filled in some wrong information by mistake somewhere along the line .

You've got a lot of faith assuming that the mirischinos will do that without someone actually seeing the rifle in real life.
 
Taking a 700 action and building an XP 100 clone does not make it a handgun.. it makes it a restricted rifle under 26 inches overall, only becomes prohibited if the barrel was cut vs manufactured short.Handguns are originally manufactured as handguns and original registration says so, a rifle cannot become a handgun just as a handgun cannot become a rifle.
Unlikely the 3030 was ever modified to such an extent, but to say it's not possible to make a manual NR into a restricted is erroneous.
and your shotgun does not become a handgun, it becomes a restricted firearm, not all restricteds are handguns.

You’re completely wrong. Read the laws, there is no way for a manual action Non-Restricted to become Resricted.

1) non-restricted firearm means

(a) a firearm that is neither a prohibited firearm nor a restricted firearm, or

(b) a firearm that is prescribed to be a non-restricted firearm; (arme à feu sans restriction)

2) restricted firearm means

(a) a handgun that is not a prohibited firearm,

(b) a firearm that

(i) is not a prohibited firearm,

(ii) has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and

(iii) is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner,

(c) a firearm that is designed or adapted to be fired when reduced to a length of less than 660 mm by folding, telescoping or otherwise, or

(d) a firearm of any other kind that is prescribed to be a restricted firearm; (arme à feu à autorisation restreinte)

3) prohibited firearm means

(a) a handgun that

(i) has a barrel equal to or less than 105 mm in length, or

(ii) is designed or adapted to discharge a 25 or 32 calibre cartridge,

but does not include any such handgun that is prescribed, where the handgun is for use in international sporting competitions governed by the rules of the International Shooting Union,

(b) a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,

(i) is less than 660 mm in length, or

(ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,

(c) an automatic firearm, whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger, or

(d) any firearm that is prescribed to be a prohibited firearm; (arme à feu prohibée)


Now let’s run our converted 700 through this. The tree runs from top to bottom, decking in if the firearm is Prohibited, then Restricted, and anything else must me Non Restricted.

3) a doesn’t apply. It’s not a handgun (unless it is, but we are assuming it isn’t)
3) b doesn’t apply, we installed a brand new barrel and or stock. Not cutting or any other alteration.
3) c doesn’t apply, its not any type of automatic.
3) d doesn’t apply, its not named prohib.

2) a doesn’t apply, not handgun
2) b doesn’t apply because the firearm is not semiautomatic. i, ii and iii must all be true for 2) b to apply.
2) c doesn’t apply, not folding retracting or anything of the sort.
2) d doesn’t apply, because it’s not a named restricted.

Well, if 2) and 3 don’t apply, only 1) can apply.

Please find me a Restricted manual action firearm that is not classified as a handgun and I’ll be inclined to think my understanding is incorrect.


Edit: I have to make a correction, there are a very small number of firearms that are normally NR, are not handguns and can be considered restricted. This seems limited to manual action that telescope or fold beneath the limit. The most obvious example is the M4 survival rifle, which is a .22 Hornet bolt action with a collapsible stock.
 
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You’re completely wrong. Read the laws, there is no way for a manual action Non-Restricted to become Resricted.

Please find me a Restricted manual action firearm that is not classified as a handgun and I’ll be inclined to think my understanding is incorrect.


Edit: I have to make a correction, there are a very small number of firearms that are normally NR, are not handguns and can be considered restricted. This seems limited to manual action that telescope or fold beneath the limit. The most obvious example is the M4 survival rifle, which is a .22 Hornet bolt action with a collapsible stock.

Just to let you know that i do have a manual action firearm that is classed as a restricted shotgun.

So indeed they do exist.
 
Is it restricted because it folds or because you have a pistol grip attached? Or some other reason?

I think you guys are thinking too hard. Talking to the OP, I don't think it has anything to do with the gun. Probably a clerical error on the CFC/CFP part back during the LGR times.

I put him in touch with the local CFO, to sort this out.
 
I think you guys are thinking too hard. Talking to the OP, I don't think it has anything to do with the gun. Probably a clerical error on the CFC/CFP part back during the LGR times.

I put him in touch with the local CFO, to sort this out.

Probably the registration certificate in question has nothing to do with this rifle. Error by the Executor is my bet.
 
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