So then the traditional stuff with lead round nosed bullets is obsolete? Crap, I've got a few hundred of these things. Now what?
30-30 For Deer....Thumbs Up or Down?
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So then the traditional stuff with lead round nosed bullets is obsolete? Crap, I've got a few hundred of these things. Now what?
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Use the fancy new ammo if you must, but, you really don't need it. The round has been killing deer for over a hundred years, and the traditional jacketed cup and core bullets that it generally uses, have been refined to the point that they work very very well.
Oh don't worry, I just consider myself your disciple, that's all
. I figured if I was breakin' trail, I missed the damn turn again...mudgunner49
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Dude - it's the internet.
Do some research, Google it, read some books, look at some old pics of guys from the '20's and '30's at deer camps in Northern Michigan or New Brunswick or even here in Ontario, with a meat pole full of big bucks and nothing in sight for blasters but lever-action Winchesters and maybe the odd Marlin.Just don't ask a question that could be answered with some very minimal checking on your part and then get a bunch of grit all up in your girl parts over a little sarcasm. Don't take the 'net or yourself too seriously and you'll be a lot less stressed.
So for the record I'll quote Craig Boddington (look him up - then read "Shots at Big Game") and state that no man should consider himself a real rifleman unless he owns at least one .30-30. Throw on a wool jacket and a pair of old leather hunting boots, lose the Gore-tex and all the modern shyte and try getting really close to a buck before you drop the hammer on him instead of taking the shot from half a county away. The .30WCF will do if you will do...
be safe
blake
So then the traditional stuff with lead round nosed bullets is obsolete? Crap, I've got a few hundred of these things. Now what?
Yep obsolete. Matter of fact, if you don't use that old ammo up soon, it will likely bounce of paper at the range also. Best go use it up this weekend, just to be safe....
30-30 for deer? Why not? Nothing like swinging a lil' ol M94 in the brush.. two thumbs up.
leveractionjunkie
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That sums it up perfectly
If you want to get into deer hunting use your 30-30 and stalk up on some unsuspecting bastard and pop him at 30 or 40yrds. If you just wanna shoot deer take your 7mm drive down a dirt road late in the afternoon and blast a deer.
DaveMachine
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- That one place with a cowboy complex
Clearly the only thing that will do is .50 BMG and that's only if you place the shot precisely.
One reason for threads, such as this one starting up, is that everything one can think of has already been run dry. Well, look at it this way. At the north american gun writers annual booze fest, oops, I mean convention, a major topic is what the heck are they going to write about next year? After all, there is only so many ways to write about the 30-06 versis the 308 versis the 270. Or what else is there left to discuss about the latest modern, super-short, roarin magnum? Or how the latest bullets with the fancy letter symbols, are so much better than those we have bragged up for the last five years.
So, I will let you in on a little secret. A few years ago some smart writer jumped up and said, "How about writing about rifle barrel break in? When all the laughing finally died down, he said, "No, I mean it. What better subject could you get? No one ever heard of it before, no one can prove it is wrong, or doesn't exist, and it will take legs and go on for years!"
Thus, boys and girls, was born the subject of barrel break in.
So, I will let you in on a little secret. A few years ago some smart writer jumped up and said, "How about writing about rifle barrel break in? When all the laughing finally died down, he said, "No, I mean it. What better subject could you get? No one ever heard of it before, no one can prove it is wrong, or doesn't exist, and it will take legs and go on for years!"
Thus, boys and girls, was born the subject of barrel break in.
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
I know, I've posted this pic a thousand times before. Still, it was a one shot kill with the 30-30, and it used Hornady Interlocks, at moderate velocity, not a max load, not a premium bullet.
Use your 30-30, and fear nothing if your skill with the rifle is up to the task.
Great tip! Thanks!
Boy you like to hang em high. You need to be a trapeze artist to skin that bull.
BTW it doesn't matter what you shoot with ( Reasonable of course ) any animal you shoot has the potential to bang flop or move into the bush. Big game hit through the boiler room can still move a certain distance regardless of what they were shot with. A hunter has to be prepared for this by knowing how to track and also the territory the animal is in so you have a good idea of were the animal might end up. I know everyone here has had 100% bang flop at all ranges with all calibers but remember that thats not reality.
Hunting is more than just shooting an animal.
BTW it doesn't matter what you shoot with ( Reasonable of course ) any animal you shoot has the potential to bang flop or move into the bush. Big game hit through the boiler room can still move a certain distance regardless of what they were shot with. A hunter has to be prepared for this by knowing how to track and also the territory the animal is in so you have a good idea of were the animal might end up. I know everyone here has had 100% bang flop at all ranges with all calibers but remember that thats not reality.
Hunting is more than just shooting an animal.
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Thanks for the advice
Dude - it's the internet.
Just don't ask a question that could be answered with some very minimal checking on your part and then get a bunch of grit all up in your girl parts over a little sarcasm. Don't take the 'net or yourself too seriously and you'll be a lot less stressed.
So for the record I'll quote Craig Boddington (look him up - then read "Shots at Big Game") and state that no man should consider himself a real rifleman unless he owns at least one .30-30. Throw on a wool jacket and a pair of old leather hunting boots, lose the Gore-tex and all the modern shyte and try getting really close to a buck before you drop the hammer on him instead of taking the shot from half a county away. The .30WCF will do if you will do...
be safe
blake
Man do I have a pic from home that reflects this statement. Have to scan it tonight.
Nice to see Craig actually said some useful for a change. I quit buying mags for the simple reason every product the man touched was absolute gold. I wish he'd tell it Colonel style like it should be.
Buds, I know guys who take deer down with 6.5mm ( equivalent to a .243, roughly) or .270. It's all about shot placement and confidence.
A 30-30 is more than capable of the job of taking a deer down, period. I've used either 30-30 or .303 for most of my hunting life. Heavybullet put it right; most deer hit went down on the spot, and only a few had to be tracked, and usually not very far.
Only one I had to track more than 150 yards was thanks to a cousin who didn't know what the hell he was doing.
A 30-30 is more than capable of the job of taking a deer down, period. I've used either 30-30 or .303 for most of my hunting life. Heavybullet put it right; most deer hit went down on the spot, and only a few had to be tracked, and usually not very far.
Only one I had to track more than 150 yards was thanks to a cousin who didn't know what the hell he was doing.
