30/30 for moose?

At the risk of high jacking the thread, and taking away from the limelight of the old 30-30, I will simply quote two posts from my original thread.

I just had to share with you guys. This is a 900lb moose. Ran out right on the bush road in front of us on the way home. 20 mins after he was down, at least 10 wolves started howling all at the same time 500 yards in the bush from the direction he came out. He was on the run. Two rounds from the .44 Trails End. 295gr air dropped ww LBT with a .300" meplat. 2400 powder. 1500 fps. Almost complete penetration. Next year it will be water dropped for complete penetration. Beautiful thing is it was with my dad. It may be his last year hunting. Been my best hunting partner since before I could walk.

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BTW, the load I used was 200-250 fps below max. I wanted a quiet load that wouldn't make my ears ring for a week. That and I like 2400 better than H-110 for several reasons.

The reason I went .44 Mag over .45 was I already had a revolver in that chambering. I went with a revolver in .44 as I live in a fairly gunsmith isolated area and didn't feel like having issues with the tight throat issue so many .45 are plaqued with.

Also the .45 are becoming so vougue they are almost not as cool any more! :lol


And a look at the slug:

http://www.neihandtools.com/catalog.html

Go to page 10 and you will see the .429-290-PB
 
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PSE said:
What a crazy thread. My advice is give yourself every break you can. If all you have is a 30/30 than use that and hold out for a close in shot. But if there's a 308 available use it and be thankful you have access to it and use that with the best premium bullets you can afford. It always seems on these threads than many hunters get bored with their hunting rifles. Oh well I've been getting my moose with a 30/06 every year now it's time to try it with a Swiss Army Knife just to see if it can be done.
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There's a huge difference between knowing whether something can be done and knowing that you can do it. Hunting moose with a .30-30 is not a test of the rifle or cartridge. It is a test of the hunter himself. Are you skilled enough to get closer? Patient enough to wait for the right shot? Calm enough when shooting to place your bullet exactly? Why do you feel one should use every possible advantage? So should we get rid of single shot rifles? Muzzleloaders? You must think, if this thread is crazy, that bowhunters are either insane or stupid! Believe it or not, there are hunters who think hunting with firearms is too easy. To them, a .30-30 is as good as a raygun.
 
I don't believe anyone said you can't shoot a moose with a 30-30:confused:
I DO believe a 308 IS a better choice:)
I have shot a lot of moose in my life.
Yes I'm probably good enough to use a 30-30 or a 22mag
But the question was 30-30 or 308

Correct answer is 308 :rolleyes:

You guys are just argueing to hear yourself :D
 
Thankyou Senior

At last somebody finally put the whole issue in proper perspective. That what I've been trying to say all along - .308 is the better choice.
 
senior said:
I don't believe anyone said you can't shoot a moose with a 30-30:confused:
I DO believe a 308 IS a better choice:)
I have shot a lot of moose in my life.
Yes I'm probably good enough to use a 30-30 or a 22mag
But the question was 30-30 or 308

Correct answer is 308 :rolleyes:

You guys are just argueing to hear yourself :D
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I believe the question was "is it good enough"
That was the way I answered.
I don't own a 30.30 at the moment, and levers don't turn my crank either.
But I wouldn't worry about huntiung with one if that was what I had decided to hunt with.
Cat
 
I have said it before and I will say it again, the 303 Savge or the 30-30 Winchester will kill anything in North America. You just have to get close enough to make your shot count. That is why it is called hunting and not Killing. Personal Opinion, and yes, I have used 30-30 on Kodiak Browns. Les
 
catnthehatt said:
I believe the question was "is it good enough"
That was the way I answered.
Cat
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Here's the original ??
"I hunt deer every year with my model 94 30/30 and it never fails me, but of course you have to be closer than 200 yrds. This year I might try moose and was wondering if a 30/30 has enough knock down power for a moose or should I use my .308 or something bigger?

Is the 30-30 good enough..YES you could also ask ...
Is a 243 good enough...YES

Correct answer to original poster is USE THE 308 :rolleyes:

THE END :D
 
Some say the 30-30 has wounded more deer than any other firearm and should be banned. That may have been true at one time. However since the advent of all these super long-range cartridges I think this is not longer a valid statement. I hunt in the bush and on the fringe of fields. I cannot tell you how many rotten deer carcasses I have discovered. Too many idiots out there using firearms for which they do not have the skill to use responsibly. This is a shame. There are more people hunting today than there ever was and few are using 30-30’s or other more practical cartridges, or have any real hunting skill.

Far too many shooters (notice I did not use the word hunters) are attempting extreme distance shots and not following up if the animal doesn’t drop immediately. Trying to make up for accuracy and skills with ballistics will never work.

I shot my largest moose with a 30-30 in the Yukon. I had taken it along as a back up. One morning while cooking breakfast a bull moose walked out on the sand bar across the narrow McMillan River. I got to my 30-30 before I could find my ammo for my 444 and shot the moose at about 75 yards. The moose took off like a freight train through the willows. I eat my breakfast then went to look for traces of blood. I found the dead moose before I found a blood trail. He ran about the same distance I had shot him. The 170 gr. bullet went through the boiled room and I found it under the hide on the opposite side. The bullet traveled through the heart and lungs after smashing through a rib. What else could you ask for? Use the rifle for what it was intended for and it wont let you down.
 
That's all people use for moose around these parts. It is a good gun for moose as long as you don't need to reach very far for it. I'd say take the.308:D
 
senior said:
Here's the original ??
"I hunt deer every year with my model 94 30/30 and it never fails me, but of course you have to be closer than 200 yrds. This year I might try moose and was wondering if a 30/30 has enough knock down power for a moose or should I use my .308 or something bigger?

Is the 30-30 good enough..YES you could also ask ...
Is a 243 good enough...YES

Correct answer to original poster is USE THE 308 :rolleyes:

THE END :D
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You misread the part about " wondering if the 30/30 has enough knokdown power or should i use my .308 or something bigger"
Sure it has enough knockdown power, so why not if he likes to hunt with it?
Cat
 
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