I used them 3 years ago, shot a deer perfect broadside at 60 yards or so, hit a rib on the way in but exited the backside, chunks of lung laying on the snow so I knew it was good. Deer ran 40 yards before piling up, should mention that was 40 yards down a 60 degree slope covered in snow, down away from where I had to drag it.......anyway upon skinning out the deer I found lots of pieces of copper jacket and lead balls in the front shoulder and rib cage. From day one I thought the bullet looked like a Vmax and was skeptical, after seeing that it exploded like a Vmax bullet I made up my mind............never again........
I am lucky that the rifle was a combo gun and I can run anything for bullets in it, but I had to know, and now I do............I had bad results, lots of meat damage but maximum carnage to kill the deer, so both good and bad results, good clean kill, bad weight retention, maximum meat loss