30-30 loads for Hornady 100gr short jacket needed

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I've got some Hornady 3005 100gr short jacket 308 bullets, but I'm not having much luck finding load info for using them in 30-30. I did scrounge up this info from another forum...supposedly from a 1970s manual:


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This is for a single shot...yes, I know that bullet probably shouldn't be used in a level with a tube mag :)
 
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I don't have my manual in front of me so I can't give you any numbers... But I'm curious, where did you get your 100gr SJ's? Neither Cabela's or Wholesale Sports in Winnipeg stock them.
 
Speer also made a 100gr half jacket/Plinker for the M1 carbine or anything else .308 dia.....Harold........yes the Hornady can be used in tubular magazines according to the Hornady book.
 
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joedude said:
I don't have my manual in front of me so I can't give you any numbers... But I'm curious, where did you get your 100gr SJ's? Neither Cabela's or Wholesale Sports in Winnipeg stock them.
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I got them from Henry @ Budget Shooter Supply (site sponsor)

http://www.budgetshootersupply.ca/frame.cfm?ItemID=236&CategoryID=40
 
Those 3031 numbers look appropriate based on the 113gr cast bullets I've used. I know that's the powder you said you didn't have, but it may instill confidence in the other numbers :)
 
Those numbers are all really high comparing to the data I personally use. I only have info for the 3031 and 4895.

Starting load for IMR3031 is 26.5gr @2085fps and Max recommended is 33.5 @2492fps.

Starting load for IMR4895 is 31gr @2258fps and Max is 34 @2545fps.

There's nothing stopping you from loading higher if you want, you'll just wear your brass much quicker and decrease your action & barrel's life. If all you want is a plinking load for your gun then I don't recommend loading the most powerful round you possibly can. Perhaps you could look at using SR4759 or even IMR Trail boss for some lighter recoil, less expensive, rounds to load that will also extend the life of your brass and your barrel.

Hope that helps.




DarkSyd said:
I've got some Hornady 3005 100gr short jacket 308 bullets, but I'm not having much luck finding load info for using them in 30-30. I did scrounge up this info from another forum...supposedly from a 1970s manual:

grains powder fps
19 2400 2021
24 2400 2415
25 2400 2480*
26 2400 2560
32 4198 2744
34 4198 2844
35 4198 2911
35 3031 2503
36 3031 2627*
38 3031 2759
38 4895 2613*
39 4895 2683
40 4895 2733

Powderwise, I've got everything on that list except 3031. Do those figures correspond to anything that anyone else has?

This is for a single shot...yes, I know that bullet probably shouldn't be used in a level with a tube mag :)
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loads

The Speer manual number 6 from 1964 gives some real high speed loads with 3031 and 4895, and 4198.
Their starting load with 3031 is with 36gr, and with 4895 37gr. FS
 
Fassteel said:
The Speer manual number 6 from 1964 gives some real high speed loads with 3031 and 4895, and 4198.
Their starting load with 3031 is with 36gr, and with 4895 37gr. FS
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I bet that creates some pretty high pressures too.

I guess what it comes down to, is what the OP is looking for in a 100gr SJ hand load. If you're looking for a specific velocity, a powerful round, an accurate round or a cheap round. You'll need different recipes to achieve either one of those. If all you're looking for is data, then there are many manuals with a lot of data. But if you're looking for advise you'll have to provide a bit more information as to what you're looking to get out of your 100gr SJ hand load.

jd
 
It'll be a plinking load, with maybe a bit of use in a smallish gopher patch...100-150yd sort of thing. Accurate and fast would be nice, but I usually stop when I get to just a plain accurate load. I've got 4198, 4895, 2400 sitting in the cupboard, and my Hornady manual had the bullet, but no suggested loads for those powders.
 
Brutus is right about the 4198 being that its faster burning than 4895. SR4759 is even faster burning, and I've gotten good results putting ~17gr behind a 100gr bullet. Low recoil, cheap to load, fun to shoot. Good plinking load.

As for gophers at 100-150yds, you'll probably want a faster travelling bullet with a bit flatter trajectory. You could definitely use your 4895 for that.
 
DarkSyd said:
It'll be a plinking load, with maybe a bit of use in a smallish gopher patch...100-150yd sort of thing. Accurate and fast would be nice, but I usually stop when I get to just a plain accurate load. I've got 4198, 4895, 2400 sitting in the cupboard, and my Hornady manual had the bullet, but no suggested loads for those powders.
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I have load info for those powders, for a 100 gr plinker load.

From a older manual pm for details
 
1) My "cheap, low-recoil, plinker or share with the kids" load is as follows:

-Hornady's or Speer's 100gr "plinker" bullet (semi-jacketed, so no leading)
-28gr. H4895 powder
-CCI Large rifle primer

Runs that 100 gr. bullet around 2100 fps, so its about equivalent to an M1 Carbine load. Accuracy is satisfactory, and POI at 50 yards is about what full power loads are at 100 yards, so no need to re-zero the scope

Regards, Henry
 
with the 4198 you have, i have load info showing some pretty quick velocity.

min load- 31.0 gr 2800 fps
mid load- 33.0 gr 2890 fps
max load- 35.0 gr 2979 fps

4895 has a bit lower numbers, 3031 also moves them pretty quick as well
 
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