30-30 testing ( pointed/ spitzer bullets.)pic heavy beware.

i will a gunshop in town has the ftx tips and going to try them out for sure. and i may have to break down and buy a box of shells. i havent bought any factory ammunition, but 22 lrs in over a year and a half (since i started loading)
 
Sorry I don't see the point of turning a perfectly good hunting tool like a 94 win into a single shot by useing pointed bullets that won't even eject unfired because they're to long :rolleyes:
Is that the only gun you got to play with :(
 
they do eject when unfired. i have seated them short enough and have no pressure signs or anything unusual. and also technically you can load 2 rounds of pointed ammunition in this gun,one in the mag and one in the chamber. ( if you need to take 2 shots you better learn how to shoot, just my opinion) i shot my bull, my grandfathers cow and my 4 point buck using only a total of 3 shots this year(one each).

and no i am not trying to be insulting, no dis-respect man.
 
coldmaker said:
I'd be concerned with bullet expansion using pointed tips in a 30-30... No?
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No worries about expansion with 150 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips or 150 gr Hornaday Spire points if you load close to MAX.

I've also had good expansion with 165 gr Speer Spitzers and really good expansion with 130 Hornady Spire Points.
 
kenneth carlson said:
they do eject when unfired. i have seated them short enough and have no pressure signs or anything unusual. and also technically you can load 2 rounds of pointed ammunition in this gun,one in the mag and one in the chamber. ( if you need to take 2 shots you better learn how to shoot, just my opinion) i shot my bull, my grandfathers cow and my 4 point buck using only a total of 3 shots this year(one each).

and no i am not trying to be insulting, no dis-respect man.
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Really tough to bring down 3 or more deer at a time with a two shot;):D
My opinion, no dis-respect :)

Again a 94 is hardly a long range killer, so the point of a pointed is :confused:
Just arguein for the fun of it, I actually tried them in a bolt 30-30 I once had & soon found it a waste of time.
 
Goldenlakepete said:
I use 38 grs H335 with a 150 gr Hornady spire point in my M94 .30-30. This is a tremendously powerful load and very flat shooting. From the Lyman # 47 Manual. The MAX is 39 grs H335.
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Have you ever checked the speed of these loads? I used to work a lot with a single shot and a bolt action .30-30 and that seems a bit much. My one load for a Winchester pointed soft point and 36g of H335 gave a velosity of 2450 fps.
 
stubblejumper said:
I do have to agree with the previous poster. I am glad that you are happy with the new loads, but they aren't what most people would consider to represent precision shooting.
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With a 30-30 open sighted 200 yards is precision shooting! For a two shot load try Sierra 125 Spitzers and RL 7 or 748. In my 325 B both get to 2600fps and MOA groups. At these low velocities the 125 Spitz is a great deer bullet.

The 160 Hornady Flex-point is another possibility and allow you to exploit the full capacity of the tube.
 
Goldenlakepete said:
No worries about expansion with 150 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips or 150 gr Hornaday Spire points if you load close to MAX.

I've also had good expansion with 165 gr Speer Spitzers and really good expansion with 130 Hornady Spire Points.
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it's just that i stumbled on this article last week, that i found interessting
http://www.castbullet.com/shooting/7tcu2.htm
you will say that velocity from the 30-30 will be higher and i agree.
but at distances where a pointed tip would be of an advantage in the 30-30
i guess velocities would be in this ball park. anyway, nothing wrong with havin fun experimenting.
 
kenneth carlson said:
the yellow holes are the 150 gr. hornady interlocks.
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wtf is with that target
 
snowshoe said:
Have you ever checked the speed of these loads? I used to work a lot with a single shot and a bolt action .30-30 and that seems a bit much. My one load for a Winchester pointed soft point and 36g of H335 gave a velosity of 2450 fps.
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No, I haven't chronographed these loads but the Lyman #47 Manual says 2473 fps with 39 grs of H335 with the 150 gr bullet at 35,800 CUP.

In Sam Fadala's book "Winchester's .30-30, Model 94" he recommends the 38 gr H335 load and claims 2570 fps for the 150 gr bullet in a 20" barrel. 2636 fps in a 26" barrel.

In my M94 the cartridges did not require full length resizing.
 
Goldenlakepete said:
No, I haven't chronographed these loads but the Lyman #47 Manual says 2473 fps with 39 grs of H335 with the 150 gr bullet at 35,800 CUP.

In Sam Fadala's book "Winchester's .30-30, Model 94" he recommends the 38 gr H335 load and claims 2570 fps for the 150 gr bullet in a 20" barrel. 2636 fps in a 26" barrel.

In my M94 the cartridges did not require full length resizing.
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2570fps sounds really fast :cool:

Welcome Pete, I'm over on Kam Lk. :)
 
So wheres the target with the Leverevolution rounds? Hornady sells both the bullets and the powder so you can reload to their factory spec which I think is 2400. If I had a dirty 30 I would go and shoot them myself. Semi spires with a soft point. My 4570 adores them. Very curious where this will go.
 
i havent been to the gunshop yet. i got friday off so i'll be doing some loading on friday, saturday i'll go to the range and post a few more targets up. i'll load more of the 150 gr. spires,150 gr.accubonds,155 gr.matchkings,125 gr.speer tnt,and maybe even tracers(they should be here on friday).this time i will use different targets for each load. easier to see.shamefully i don't have a chrony but i'll see if my buddy will come out with his.
 
ohhhh i forgot i also have some 165 gr ballistic silver tips to try out also.(i geuss i better go through my reloading benchs to see exactly what i have)there may be more to test out by friday lol.
 
Very interesting post, and shooting the 30/30 with iron sights certainly is precision shooting. My 30/30 results don't mirror these, I had a Browning Trad. Hunter single shot(1885) in 30/30, so pointed bullets were on the agenda. When all was said and done, the Lyman 311041 cast bullet was most accurate, and least expensive to boot. Now I have a new Marlin 336 30/30 to wring out, and so far nothing shoots good in it!! The Micro-groove rifling is what I am blaming it on, but I will shoot this gun all spring. but won't bother with pointed bullets as i see no advantage to them in the .30 wcf. IMHO any advantage the ptd. bullet has is easily trumped by the thump of the flat point bullet and reliable expansion.
 
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