300 AAC Blackout bolt-action
- Thread starter SCDL
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Nothing wrong with 20" barrels but shorter is alwas better for that cartridge. It might actually be cheaper to just buy a shorter pre-fit and install it yourself than to do a custom run of them. Considering the volume you'd need to order from the factory to make a custom run, I don't know if you'd find enough market for it.
Good luck getting hold of one of those.
I got tired of waiting and am building my own. I'm actually gonna build two of them and sell one. Think 14" heavy match grade barrel.
14" SBR bolt rifle? Sounds ###y...
Building both on Remmy's Peter?The PC just came out in that cartridge so it's likely going to be a while before they show up on dealers' shelves.
Personally, I'd like to see the AAC Micro 7 in .300 Blk. show up here as well but only time will tell.
Good luck getting hold of one of those.
I got tired of waiting and am building my own. I'm actually gonna build two of them and sell one. Think 14" heavy match grade barrel.
I think every post I read from you in the last 12 months involved 300whisper/blackout/etc.
I'm guessing... they're worth it
What is to like about that caliber without a supressor? (genuine question)
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- victoria bc
Just buy one in 308 and hand load some heavy slow loads...300 blackout is kinda pointless in a bolt action....
Why would you say that? The .300 Blackout itself is a very flexible cartridge and works well with short and long barrelled rifles/carbines. You can have a relatively accurate subsonic plinking round that's not hard on the ears or you can produce ballistics as good as or near the 7.62x39mm or .30/30 Wincester that would be great for short to medium range hunting for example.
One could argue, that the .300 Blackout offers far more flexibility in a bolt action than it does in a semi-auto. You can use any bullet/powder/primer combination you want and you don't have to worry about wether or not it will cycle the weapon or feed reliably through occasionally finicky detachable mags.
It's not a do-all cartridge but for most of the shooting I do it's a welcome addition to my collection.
You don't need a supressor to enjoy ehat the cartridge has to offer. Honesly, I think people get to narrow minded when they see this as a subsonic only cartridge. Having said that, it all depends on a variety of factors. How long is your barrel? What load combination and velocity is your bullet going to attain?
If you go for a best of both worlds approach, a 16" barrel is close to optimum for both subsonic and supersonic use. The propellant in a .300 Blackout gets burned within 9" or less of barrel length which is a good thing as far as muzzle pressure goes so noise isn't a major issue.
I can tell you that I've loaded up some 110gr. subsonic target loads using 4.5gr.-6.5gr. of Trail Boss that were as quiet as .22RF. When it's that quiet, you don't have much to complain about.
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- victoria bc
the 308 can do everything the 300Blackout can do and more...well at least in a bolt gun...what is the twist rate in 300 blackout rifles???
edit; just searched 300 BO is normally 1/8 twist, better for the slow heavies, i'd love to have one, or even just shoot a surpressed AR in 300aac
sillymike
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I was thinking the same thing... The caliber make sense if you want to use AR magazines, or in a rifle chambered for the 223...
Seems like guys are getting good results using Trail Boss and/or Red dot and 220gr bullets...
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Or course, a dedicated rifle in 300 blackout is still a ###y idea
And a .300 Win Mag can do everything a .308 Win. can do and plenty more. In fact, there's even commercially available subsonic rounds available through Engle Ballistic Research. You can make an argument for anything.
There's no question a .308 Win. is a widely popular and useful cartridge, especially in a bolt rifle. That's not the point. I don't see them as competing cartridges and I have multiple examples of both the .308 Win. and .300 Blackout in bolt guns. Both of these cartridges compliments eachother.
Of course, if I had to chose just (1) cartridge it would be for a .308 Win. - hands down, no argument. However, most of us are lucky enough to have the luxury of owning more than one firearms chambered in a variety of cartridges.
A lot of guys who shoot the Blackout have both AR's and bolt guns chambered for it. Like the .223 Rem., the cartridge can easily be adapted to a wide variety of firearms platforms.
Yes, the 1:8" twist is by far the most commonly found. However, there are some manufacturers who have used 1:10" like Thompson Centre Arms. There's also a trend towards 1:6.5"-1:7" twists for firearms that are dedicated for subsonic use only or for the use of 240gr. or greater weight bullets.
juanvaldez
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- Sudbury, Ontario
I'll do a run of savage bbls in 300 BO. Price would depend on interest. could be pretty cheap if I split blanks in 2
A 26" blank would give you two 12" barrels which would make an ideal bush carbine.
Am liking the idea
Great idea Sean.
***as a general note, people might want to look into the potential ejection issues that crop up from time to time on both Savage and Remington platforms due to the small .300 Blk case.
Sometimes, there are no issues and everything works well. Frequently, issues do arise when doing the conversions on .223 Rem based rifles.
Generally, there are (3) brands that are known to give few if any issues when re-chamberring to the .300 Blackout. They are: (1) Howa 1500/Weatherby Vanguard, (2) Tikka T3's, and (3) CZ 527's. Winchester model 70's are not commonly used, however, I've heard of no reported issues. Other actions may work equally well, just do your homework first.
Yep, they will be based on Rem 700 bolt actions.
Yes, I like the 300 Whisper, I have two of them at the moment and am building a third. Subsonic is loads of fun and even without a suppressor they are really interesting to work with. They make for cheap plinking fun in a compact package.
The Whisper/Blackout is a better solution than a full sized 308 because it is easier to produce safe subsonic loads with better accuracy.
Yes, I like the 300 Whisper, I have two of them at the moment and am building a third. Subsonic is loads of fun and even without a suppressor they are really interesting to work with. They make for cheap plinking fun in a compact package.
The Whisper/Blackout is a better solution than a full sized 308 because it is easier to produce safe subsonic loads with better accuracy.
juanvaldez
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Sudbury, Ontario
just pricing out the reamer and some blanks...
