300 Rum or 300 Wby
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Personally, I wouldn't choose the RUM case for a bore size smaller than .338, but then if I can't do it with a .30/06 I go bigger not faster. The .300 Weatherby has an excellent reputation as an effective general purpose big game cartridge, so between the two it would be my choice. In the field, very few marksmen could exploit the advantage of a .300 Ultra of a .30-378 over the .300 Weatherby or the .300 Winchester for that matter.
I have owned both,and I prefer the 300RUM.If I am going to put up with the extra recoil and shorter barrel life compared to the 300winmag,I at least want the extra 125fps or so that the RUM offers.The truth is though,that for most people,the 300winmag is the best choice of the three.
I have had both I prefer the 300 Weatherby currently becasue I like the rifle I have chambered in 300 Roy more than the one I had chambered in a 300 RUM.
If I was shopping for new and had two exact guns that fit me well and I had to choose the caliber between the two I would pick the 300 RUM. As others have said if your looking for pure speed might as well go big.
If I was shopping for new and had two exact guns that fit me well and I had to choose the caliber between the two I would pick the 300 RUM. As others have said if your looking for pure speed might as well go big.
I have both (and a few 300 WM and a 308 NM). I prefer the Wby, doesn't kick as bad. - dan
Tables are close
Chuck Hawkes lists the balistics as follows:
Cartridge (Wb + type) MV (fps) V @ 200 yds ME (ft lb) E @ 200 yds
.300 Wby. Mag. (180 Sp) 3240 2826 4195 3193
.300 Ultra Mag. (180 Sp) 3250 2834 4221 3201
He also list trajectory as:
Cartridge (Wb@MV) Bullet BC 100 yds. 200 yds. MRT@yds. MPBR (yds.)
.300 Wby. Mag. (180 Sp at 3250) .483 +2.4" +2.6" 3"@155 320
.300 Ultra Mag (180 Sp at 3250) .483 +2.4" +2.6" 3"@155 320
I never realized how close they were. I own a Mark V 300 Wby but not a 300 RUM. Therefore, I cannot comment on the later but the first is an excellent cartridge and an excellent rifle. With a 180 grain Nosler Partition my father and I have shot large Elk, Whitetail and Mule Deer. If shot well, they usually don't take another step. I recall shooting an elk on the run only to watch it summersault into a cloud of dust, which was to say the least a great experience.
Then again, the largest elk I ever shot was with a 30-06. It is true that bullet placement is the most important, but it looks like both cartridges you are looking at will be flat shooting and hard hitting which at times will give you an advantage, if not only in confidence. Both should be capable of taking any game in North America, except maybe the largest of the bears.
On a personal note, I think the Mark V is one of the best built rifles/actions on the commercial market. Nine locking lugs, and a 54 degree bolt throw. I trust it more than my R93 Blaser which I paid three times the price. This love for their rifles is probably why I own a 257 Mark Five SUB MOA Accumark from the Weatherby custom shop.
Weatherby rifles and their cartridges are a legend and story all to their own. Yes they are more expensive to buy and shoot, but boy do they look good. As their old trade mark said "Weatherby, symbol of Superiority". I don't think that has changed over almost 50 years of rifle and cartridge development.
If you want to shoot a rifle go ahead, if you want to shoot a Weatherby, shoot a Weatherby.
Chuck Hawkes lists the balistics as follows:
Cartridge (Wb + type) MV (fps) V @ 200 yds ME (ft lb) E @ 200 yds
.300 Wby. Mag. (180 Sp) 3240 2826 4195 3193
.300 Ultra Mag. (180 Sp) 3250 2834 4221 3201
He also list trajectory as:
Cartridge (Wb@MV) Bullet BC 100 yds. 200 yds. MRT@yds. MPBR (yds.)
.300 Wby. Mag. (180 Sp at 3250) .483 +2.4" +2.6" 3"@155 320
.300 Ultra Mag (180 Sp at 3250) .483 +2.4" +2.6" 3"@155 320
I never realized how close they were. I own a Mark V 300 Wby but not a 300 RUM. Therefore, I cannot comment on the later but the first is an excellent cartridge and an excellent rifle. With a 180 grain Nosler Partition my father and I have shot large Elk, Whitetail and Mule Deer. If shot well, they usually don't take another step. I recall shooting an elk on the run only to watch it summersault into a cloud of dust, which was to say the least a great experience.
Then again, the largest elk I ever shot was with a 30-06. It is true that bullet placement is the most important, but it looks like both cartridges you are looking at will be flat shooting and hard hitting which at times will give you an advantage, if not only in confidence. Both should be capable of taking any game in North America, except maybe the largest of the bears.
On a personal note, I think the Mark V is one of the best built rifles/actions on the commercial market. Nine locking lugs, and a 54 degree bolt throw. I trust it more than my R93 Blaser which I paid three times the price. This love for their rifles is probably why I own a 257 Mark Five SUB MOA Accumark from the Weatherby custom shop.
Weatherby rifles and their cartridges are a legend and story all to their own. Yes they are more expensive to buy and shoot, but boy do they look good. As their old trade mark said "Weatherby, symbol of Superiority". I don't think that has changed over almost 50 years of rifle and cartridge development.
If you want to shoot a rifle go ahead, if you want to shoot a Weatherby, shoot a Weatherby.
Both are excellent cartridges but there are 2 reasons I have a 300RUM over a Weatherby.
1) I do not like belted cases.
2) Cost/availability of brass it is very easy to find RUM brass compared to Weatherby.
If you do not reload then cost/availability of factory ammo.
1) I do not like belted cases.
2) Cost/availability of brass it is very easy to find RUM brass compared to Weatherby.
If you do not reload then cost/availability of factory ammo.
If you're only getting 3250 fps from your RUM, you're underloading it. 3300-3400 would be more apt, which changes your ballistic charts somewhat. - dan
Both are excellent cartridges but there are 2 reasons I have a 300RUM over a Weatherby.
1) I do not like belted cases.
2) Cost/availability of brass it is very easy to find RUM brass compared to Weatherby.
If you do not reload then cost/availability of factory ammo.
He is right the cost of Weatherby ammo is steep...
My gun came with 6 boxes of factory ammo with a 79.99 price tag on each box
The ammo and gun where given to me so it was a great price for me lol...
I was getting 3200 fps with 200 Accubonds and close to 3400 fps with 180 Accubonds so I agree in regards to my experince with the RUM and hand loading its got the Roy beat on plain speed.
My 300 Roy kicks me harder than my RUM did but my rifle is a Weatherby Mark V Lightweight. My 300 RUM was a Remmy Model 700 with a nice thick recoil pad. It was sporty but recoil was not to bad...
I load 180gr Scirroco's to 3380fps in my 300RUM but these big cases are for bigger bullets I have now settled on 3200fps with both 200gr Swift A-Frames and Nosler Accubonds.
Can push them faster but this is where I get the best accuracy.
Can push them faster but this is where I get the best accuracy.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
To all that voted for the RUM...
Do you actually believe its speed will make long range hits easier?
Do you really think it kills better?
From what I have seen the recoil of the 300RUM is far beyond the level of comfort for most shooters.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
To all that voted for the RUM...
Do you actually believe its speed will make long range hits easier?
Do you really think it kills better?
From what I have seen the recoil of the 300RUM is far beyond the level of comfort for most shooters.
No I just bought a Tikka T3 Varmint 6.5x55 for my long range rig
No way I want to put up with the recoil of a 300 shooting lots of rounds...The original question was 300 RUM or 300 Roy. Agree with Gatehouse though if he doesn't reload better off with a 300 Win Mag..
Personally I would just pick a 30/06 boring I know....
eaglesnester
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300RUM: More powder, shorter barrel life, little gain in MV, why?
I shoot a 300 Weatherby plenty gun plenty flat shooting, mucho stopping power. The 300RUM is nothing more than, I got a bigger ##### than you do marketing ploy. A one upmanship on Weatherby with little gain in performance.
I shoot a 300 Weatherby plenty gun plenty flat shooting, mucho stopping power. The 300RUM is nothing more than, I got a bigger ##### than you do marketing ploy. A one upmanship on Weatherby with little gain in performance.
