Alberta Bigbore
CGN Regular
- Location
- Edmonton, Alberta
Anything intersting you can tell me about this round for hunting? I know nothing about it ... but would like to change that... thinking about adding one to my collection
.300 savage?
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I have good luck reloading with RL 15 and 165 gr bullets. Groups around 1 1/2" at 100 out of my model 99F. I performs very close to the 308 win and is actually the case that the 308 is based on. The 308 has a slightly longer neck. Google 300 savage and find all kinds of interesting articles. Capable of taking all except the big bears in North America if you do your part at reasonable ranges.
Speer 150 grain GS's seem to be designed with the .300 Savage in mind.
IMR 4831 and RL-15 both work great in my 99EG and 99F's.
As has been said already it does everything a .308 will do and does it with less recoil and noise.
Easy round to load for and Remington bagged brass isnt hard to find.
IMR 4831 and RL-15 both work great in my 99EG and 99F's.
As has been said already it does everything a .308 will do and does it with less recoil and noise.
Easy round to load for and Remington bagged brass isnt hard to find.
Alberta Bigbore
CGN Regular
- Location
- Edmonton, Alberta
Thx for the comments. I used to have an old boss that swore by the .300 savage.... I have found a nice gun in that caliber and Ive never owned one so why not?
I shot this buck @ 210 yards with a 308Bellm which is a wildcat loaded to match 300 Savage ballistics in a 21" barreled T/C Contender carbine = 150gr bullets @ 2620fps.
The 300 Savage is an excellent round that I highly recommend and as far as I am concerned the round that should have been introduced instead of the 308 Win for military use if they had of we would not be using 223 now...
The 300 Savage is an excellent round that I highly recommend and as far as I am concerned the round that should have been introduced instead of the 308 Win for military use if they had of we would not be using 223 now...
That is a good reason to get into hand-loading.
300 Savage is easily formed from 308 cases if you can't find "proper" 300 brass. and hand-loading will allow one to try bullets the factories never load. Yes, and I agree the old 300 will do anythingthe 308 Winchester can.
- Location
- Eastern Edge of the Foothills
So wait, the 300 savage can do anything the 308win can. The 308win can do anything the 30-06 can. And the 30-06 can do anything the 300 Win Mag can.
So the 300 Savage can do anything the 300 Win Mag can, but does it with less powder and recoil. And aparently the 300 Savage does it with bullets that are only as heavy as a 223 bullet (thanks for the new info Cook!), so you can carry more rounds for the same weight in your pocket.
Sounds awsome!
I'll take two please!
So the 300 Savage can do anything the 300 Win Mag can, but does it with less powder and recoil. And aparently the 300 Savage does it with bullets that are only as heavy as a 223 bullet (thanks for the new info Cook!), so you can carry more rounds for the same weight in your pocket.
Sounds awsome!
I'll take two please!
- Location
- Eastern Edge of the Foothills
WOW are you ever mixed up...
Perhaps, but let's walk through this.
If someone comes on one of these forums and is talking up the 300 win, then before too long someone who's in love with the 30-06 will pipe up and say that the 30-06 can do anything the 300 win can do. Long arguements ensue, citing ballistic charts, loading manual quotes, chrony measurements, and someone hitting the gong at 5 km.
So then in another thread someone will be talking up the 30-06 and someone who's in love with the 308win will say that he can do whatever the 30-06 can with less powder and less recoil, blah blah blah, and and the same kinds of arguements ensue.
So here we have people saying that the 300 Savage is equal to the 308win. Great.
So, if A=B, and B=C, and C=D, then by definition A must be equal to D, no?
And you have told us that all the advantages that the military found with the 223 can be had with the 300 Sav, so the equal weight for more rounds principle holds. It must. Because you said the military wouldn't have switched to the 223 if they had just used the 300 sav instead of the 308win.
So, because A=D, then the 300Sav can do anything the 300 Win Mag can do, and do it with rounds that are as light as a 223 round.
If this last statement is not true, then all the above cited arguments and statements are wrong as well.
Hmmmm, Maybe that is a good point, and something to consider.
very good writing but do you have personnal hunting experience with 300 savage ?
Give him a break guys. You know he is technically right, most data for the 300 Savage shows it to be 100-250 fps slower than the 308. This is largely due the the 300 being loaded to lower pressures, however even if the pressures were matched the 308 would have a couple fps advantage due to a few grains more capacity. For all practical purposes I agree that the Savage round is basically the equal of the 308 however if you split hairs the 308 is faster.
- Location
- Eastern Edge of the Foothills
I've not hunted with a 300 Savage, but I have hunted with a .308win, and a 30-30. The 30-30 is only a couple hundred fps slower than the 300Sav, so I'm sure it can do anything the 300 Sav can do!
[Especially in a box magazine rifle like the savage 340!]
I'm not knocking the 300 Savage. What I'm knocking is the continual notion that any given cartridge is just as good as another cartridge which shoots the same bullets, but with a 200-300 fps velocity difference.
If 200-300 fps make no difference, then do 400-600 fps? How about 600-800? Where do you draw the line?
- Location
- In lalaland, that is Ottawa.
I hate to go against the the camp cook, however I must agree with the above. Before the .308 came along, it was quite correctly said that the .300 Savage was about as close that you could come to the effectiveness of the .30-06 in a common lever rifle. The only problem with the .300 was the short neck.
When the .308 came out, a great cartridge, it fixed the problem of the short neck in the .300Sav and the Savage 99 was then chambered for it.
And the .308 was touted as almost a great as the .30-06 in balistics, using less powder in a shorter case requiring a shorter bolt throw, by giving up a bit of muzzle velocity in the process.
Huntin' Gun has expressed it very well later in this thread where he goes through the A=B=C=D there for A must = D. Not so in logic or simple algebra.
My son wanted a Savage 99 with and I turned him away from .300 to only accept a .308 and he found a very nice one. (Because I would possibly reload for him,)
Good bullet placement beats Ft/lb of energy and if the shooter is over gunned and the least bit apprehensive of the recoil, he will not practice with the rifle. I know, having shot many calibres from .222R to ro .338 WM with 300 grain bullets. My M70 Winch. in .338 with 225 grain Hornady was one of my favorite rifles for moose or big stuff but it was a .243 or .257R that was my deer tifle.
- Location
- Golden Lake
An old gentleman who was my neighbour for many years bought a Savage Model 99 in .300 Savage when he came back from the war in 1945. He shot at least 1 moose and 1 deer (usually more) every year until he passed away a few years ago. He rarely used more that 1 shot on each animal.
sundance1972
Regular
- Location
- duncan b.c.
All i know about them is that i've been waiting for my dad's Sav 99 with the rotary mag for about 20 years. Was his favorite rifle for a long time, took 30+ deer and 8 moose with it. Says they were all one shot kills, but he's a fisherman too, so you never know!!
