300 wsm head space measurement?

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My fired cases measure 1.744” using the Hornady head space tool. SAAMI spec is 1.726 if I’m measuring that correctly. Why am I seeing such a big gap between the two? I’ve FL sized to 1.741 and they chamber just fine. I’m looking to tighten this up even more to 1.742.
 
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Ignore the SAAMI info. Size the cases to fit your chamber.

Likely the issue is that the Hornady headpiece collar doesn't meet the case shoulder at the exact datum point used by SAAMI.

The normal headspace range is .004".

Sizing your cases to as close as possible as the fired case headspace will limit case stretch and increase case life. However a little caution is advised. I discovered a problem when I changed the shell holder and ended up with cases that were just a teeny bit too long. t seems not all shell holders are exactly the same. So now I have dedicated a press and a shell holder to 308 etc case head cartridges.
 
I would go with what is said in Post #2 - and add - that Hornady brand tool is likely a made-in-China thing that you are relying on to be dead-nuts accurate - you are chasing numbers, when what you really want is your brass to fit to your chamber - does not really matter what that number is. If the tool is not helping you do that - and you are using it correctly, then most would call that tool "a piece of useless junk" - and I own and have owned many pieces of "useless junk".

Perhaps for clarity - for decades, maybe for centuries - "headspace" was measured with steel ground gauges - used to set the chamber in a barrel - usually a set of three gauges - GO is minimum length; NOGO is about 0.004" longer and Field is Maximum length - most barrel installers / chamber cutters will try to be between GO and NOGO - I can not find where SAAMI defines NOGO - it might be a barrel maker or reamer maker invention, to help speed up chamber installation. SAAMI defines Minimum - that is the GO gauge. And SAAMI defines Maximum - that is the FIELD gauge. If they define NOGO, I have not found where they do that. So far as I know, there is no SAAMI "head space gauge" for cartridges - they either fit to the chamber (within tolerances) or they do not. I suspect some modern marketer has invented a "headspace gauge" for a cartridge case, although I think that is misleading nomenclature.
 
The band from go to no go is typically .006". I've got incremental sets in .308 and .338 Lapua that go in .001 increments, in addition to .002 increments beyond no-go to about .01".

With the .001 increments, I can measure exactly where in the .006" range the headspace is. From a production standpoint, these are handy, but irrelevant to the discussion on reloading.

What matters most is the relative measurements your gauge gives you. If you measure a fired case and get x.###", then you use the same gauge to set your bump to x.###"-.002", you've achieved the exact result required for your rifle and gauge. If you're not annealing, you're going to fight spring back and see the .002" value start wandering.
 
Appreciate the replies guys. I am dialing in a load for this rifle so really getting everything tightened up now. I have my shoulder bump down to 1.743 and it chambers smoothly so I am very happy there.
 
My fired cases measure 1.744” using the Hornady head space tool. SAAMI spec is 1.726 if I’m measuring that correctly. Why am I seeing such a big gap between the two? I’ve FL sized to 1.741 and they chamber just fine. I’m looking to tighten this up even more to 1.742.

You can size it to whatever you want. If you're FL sizing you can either get a taller shell holder, or back your die off a bit. Do this either by trial an error (turning down the die a bit at a time until you get the size you want), or a better way is to use your calipers to measure from the bottom of the die to the underside of the locking ring. Once you dial it in, lock the ring down and you'll never need to move it again.

SAAMI is more about tolerances - a size that will fit and fire in any standard commercial chamber. The only size that really matters is your chamber.

If your fired brass is 1.744, then your chamber is probably 1.745 or so. Size to 1.743 and you're good to go

EDIT - oops, I just saw that you replied already and got it dialed in - glad you sorted it out.
 
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