300 WSM on white tail deer?

Vyrtual said:
Last year I shot a big whitetail with a weatherby .300 with a 180 boat tail. He was at 80 yards, dropped in place, and not a very big hole at all. I think at that distance the bullet is moving so fast it doesn't have time to expand that much.
Same rifle and round shot my uncles deer at 200 yards this year and blew the back boulder apart lol.
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Are you talking about the entrance hole on the 80 yards shot by any chance?
The bullet most probably blew apart inside the chest cavity.
it 's really unlikely the bullet didn't expand. And if it's what happened, it did because of a defect in the bullet and would have done the same at any distance.
 
patrickg said:
Hi,last fall I purchased a Tikka 300 wsm for moose and deer hunting,unfortunatly I did not get to see the performance of the barnes 180g all copper bullets on Mr moose but I did shoot a 5 pts deer at 60 yrds and had to track him about 80 yards before finding it. I was expecting to see a big hole but to my suprise there was only a pencil size hole right throu the boiler room. My question is if I continue to hunt deer with this rifle what is the recommended bullet type and grain weight I should be using?
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I had very similar results with 165TTsx and TSX in my 300WSM. They are very accurate in my rifle but I don't think they are right choice for a quick keel.
 
I'm confused how an 80 yard blood trail is considered a "failure". In my opinion, and I believe this is born out by physiology, deer can easily run up to about 100 yards give or take even if they have no lungs or heart left. They won't always, as there are tons of indeterminable factors influencing it, but unless you take out their nervous system or the structures they need to run, there is always a chance they will have about 10 seconds or so of running before they drop.

Like I said, I don't see that as a failure. That's just hunting. I wouldn't start thinking that performance of the bullet was a factor unless the animals were regularly running significantly farther than 100 yards on good double lung vital hits.
 
We lost a big bull elk to barns this year .
200 yards 300 win mag hand loads shooting .45 Moa
And same thing on that bull he just walked away like it didn't
Take the bullet . We are long range hunters and are gong the plate out to 1000
We also seen these bullets preform on a cow elk and a deer
No good . Bullet didn't open up on either animal
Changed bullets nosler partions .
Hornaby SSt opened right up exploded on 2 animals dropped them dead
 
Last year I shot a big whitetail with a weatherby .300 with a 180 boat tail. He was at 80 yards, dropped in place, and not a very big hole at all. I think at that distance the bullet is moving so fast it doesn't have time to expand that much.
Same rifle and round shot my uncles deer at 200 yards this year and blew the back boulder apart lol.
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Faster velocity = MORE expansion.
 
coldmaker said:
Are you talking about the entrance hole on the 80 yards shot by any chance?
The bullet most probably blew apart inside the chest cavity.
it 's really unlikely the bullet didn't expand. And if it's what happened, it did because of a defect in the bullet and would have done the same at any distance.
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I mean entrance + exit holes weren't much at all. I was expecting a big hole, but it was actually pretty minimal. Got him through both lungs.

Same gun and round shot a doe this year through the neck at 50 yards and same thing, not a big hole. But at distance, it was substantial. Lol.
Not sure why, but that's what's happening
 
i've shot deer with my stw with 160 an 140 grain barnes x bullets , up close ( around 40 feet ) and out to around 300 yards , none of them failed to expand .

same thing with my 6.5x55 with a 140 grain x bullet regardless of the distance , they have always expanded .
 
i shot a cow moose just above the left eye with my 300wsm, she was facing me at 40 yards dropped like nothing ive ever seen, i used factory winchester 180grain ballistic silvertips, i thought at 40yrds there wouldve been some sort of exit but the bullet did what it was suppose d to do, i opened up the skull too see what went down in there all i can say is it was one of the nastiest things ive seen,freaking awesome at the same time, i shot a decent 8 point whitetail last fall same ammo 200yrds in the neck broadside he dropped in his tracks as well , i dont reload so factory ammo it is and my tikka seems to like the win ammo . have heard good things about berger tho
 
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