.300 WSM Question

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I picked-up new Win Brass yesterday, FL sized with a brand new RCBS die (with lube), trimmed cases using Lee case trimmer, deburred inside and outside edges-thought that I was good to go.

I attempted to seat Accubond 180 gr'ers by hand and could not get them into the mouth. Np-so I run it through the RCBS seater, however can not remove the bullet using vice grips or anything else...I understand Win Brass is "hard" but...

Is this sort of neck tension normal? I am throwing away new bullets and brass because I can't separate them...

Second question: What has been your experience with distance from .300WSM lands. I am awaiting the rifle-an M70 Sporter and will experiment,
 
I reload.300 WSM and I cant seat a bullet by hand when the brass is sized properly. I cant pull bullets either without using an impact bullet puller...

for distance to lands, I just use published OAL and tweak as I go along to try and get better accuracy. Lucky for me, my Ruger has a fairly long throat. For a hunting rifle, how important is it, as long as the rounds chamber and shoot near 1.5 inches at a hundred you should be good to go...
 
Troutseeker said----"For a hunting rifle, how important is it, as long as the rounds chamber and shoot near 1.5 inches at a hundred you should be good to go..."
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Finally, some one has spoken with common sense about accuracy for a hunting rifle!
 
If you could seat the bullets by hand,there wouldn't be enough neck tension.Why do you want to remove the seated bullets?If you do need to remove them buy a collet type bullet puller.
 
...I assembled a dummy load to insert into the chamber to work backwards to the OAL...I believe the M70 has a large mag so OAL touching lands should not be a problem. My brother just purchased a .260Rem (Tikka) and he has this problem however...
 
blauber said:
...I assembled a dummy load to insert into the chamber to work backwards to the OAL...I believe the M70 has a large mag so OAL touching lands should not be a problem. My brother just purchased a .260Rem (Tikka) and he has this problem however...
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With the T3 mag you can use a dremmel and carve a small channel in the mag at the bullet tip. This will gain a few thou easy if you really need it.
I have seen it done and it works.
 
Bullets touching lands with hunting rounds in a hunting rifle?

mmmhh, trying to chamber the round that is off a few thou (too long) while that buck is running away will be hysterical.

My hunting rounds are all FL sized, with bullets at least 20 thou off the lands for reliability reasons.

My .02$

And no, I can't put or pull bullets by hands in the resized cases
 
If you want to make a dummy round

Colour bullet with jiffy marker

Seat bullet in press leaving it "long"

Place in rifle, force into chamber (if it won't go, seat a bit at a time with the press until it does)

Once it chambers and bolt closes, remove brass. Most likely bullet is stuck in lands

Knock bullet out wiht cleaning rod or dowel

Seat bullet to where the jiffy marker is rubbed off

Adjust dies down another 1/2 turn or more (as long as it fits in your magazine)

Hunting loads should easily fit in the magazine and easily clear the lands..
 
..., interesting input. I have loaded for my .243 using a Lee Collet die and can seat by hand if I work them in (Sierra GK 85gr HPBT). The Lee die sizes 1/1000" smaller than caliber (e.g. .242" for a .243Win). Apparently, you can send dies back to Lee if you want more neck tension-they will mill 1-2/1000" off the mandrel so neck mouths are sized 2-3/1000" smaller = increased neck tension. As I'm new to the .300WSM and FL sizing, the increased neck tension caught me completely off guard...


I have backed my bullets just 1/1000" off the lands for the .243 as this provided the best accuracy (also fits in the magazine). These are hunting bullets. Why can't a hunting load be developed for best accuracy even if that means they are 1-5/1000" from the lands? For instance, I will be using the .300WSM for long range coyotes-they are not as large as a dear, and with wind drift and distance estimation a factor almost every shot (at 300+ yards), I hope to do the best I can with developing an accuate configuration...
 
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