300WM H1000 and Barnes

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Hi Guys,

I am looking for assistance on putting together a load with the following components. Maybe someone as access to Quickload.

Here are the variables:

300wm norma brass
Barnes 168gr TTSX
Powder H1000
Primer CCI 250
Barrell 24 3/8

Thanks for input.

C
 
RL-300mag said:
Those load's are from the Barne's reloading manual #4. I myself have never worked with 168 in 300wm, i tend to reload & shoot 185vld's. But i hope this help's....
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I'll compare with what I had thanks for the info. I tried 200gr accubonds at first but with poor results that was over retumbo which is probably a tad slow but I had it on hand. So i am switching to 2 different components for ####s and giggles... Maybe i'll switch back to the 200 accubond with the h1000 which does miracles in my savage-brux barreled 300wm. But for now I feel like something different.

Thanks again.

C
 
I had all sorts of problems with H1000, very rapid pressure build ups.

Can't remember the load but it was about 2 grains under the max in the Barnes Manual and I had loose primer pockets.

I loaded that bullet with those primers with a number of powders and reloder 22 was by far the best in both accuracy and velocity, I also hunted and shot it in all temperatures and had no issues.
 
martinbns said:
I had all sorts of problems with H1000, very rapid pressure build ups.

Can't remember the load but it was about 2 grains under the max in the Barnes Manual and I had loose primer pockets.

I loaded that bullet with those primers with a number of powders and reloder 22 was by far the best in both accuracy and velocity, I also hunted and shot it in all temperatures and had no issues.
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What kind of velocity where you getting with reloader 22? Would you share that load through PM perhaps. Thanks for your input. I might just pick up a few pounds tomorrow.
 
in my savage 111 300wm, I have good results with H1000 200gr accbounds and fed GM215M primers
sbmao at 400 yards 2895 f/s muzzle
got rid off the barnes bullets because in order to get accurate loads, pressure was getting to high
 
I ran the numbers through Quickload and without case water capacity its pretty hard to give you any good numbers. I will say that the advice you got from RL-300mag was pretty much your best course of action, and was right around where Quickload was predicting. FWIW
 
I have QL and have tried what you are wanting to do. Savage 111, Federal brass, F215 primers, H1000 and Barnes 165gr TSX. I am at work right now and don't have the details in front of me so I can't quote amount of powder used, but the results were less than satisfactory. I then used the Barnes 180gr TSX and H1000 and was able to get sub MOA. For the 165's I ended up using RL19 with excellent results.
 
Controller said:
What kind of velocity where you getting with reloader 22? Would you share that load through PM perhaps. Thanks for your input. I might just pick up a few pounds tomorrow.
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3100 fps with the 168 gr TSX, I am not at home to look up the load, but if memory serves it was max for the 165gr bullet from the Hornady manual. I worked it up before TSX data was widely available and Barnes was still putting that little piece of paper in the boxes that said you could go over the old X bullet data.
 
takman74 said:
Try this bullet with IMR7828. 80 grains is a good start and work up from there.
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For those who are reading this ---Do NOT try this as a starting load!!!!!

This might be a safe in your rifle, but I KNOW that it is quite a bit too hot in many 300 Win Mags,
so I believe it is irresponsible to recommend that heavy a load to start.

Eagleye.
 
takman74 said:
Dude relax 79 grains is a starting load..... Jeepers
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Barnes lists 75 gr of IMR 7828 as max with the 168, so you should not be recommending such stiff loads as starters.

My 300 Win Mag gives a stiff bolt and marked cases at 76 grains

Where are you getting 79gr as a starting load??
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Eagleye.
 
The data used for my load is from Barnes #3 manual page 390. The XLC data was used by the Barnes factory when the first TSX bullets came out. Because they were new and no data was available at the time I was told by the factory to use the XLC data as the TSX with the cannelure rings will produce similar CUP pressures to the XLC. I did find it interesting however that the new manual shows loads that are significantly reduced. With that said I shoot 80 grains under a 168 TSX with a federal 215m. I have never had a sticky bolt or any signs of pressure in my Sako 75. Is this a warm load yes it is. This shoots sub MOA out of my rifle and I'm happy with the terminal performance on game. Like eagleye states each rifle is different and in hindsight recommending a warm load to a person looking for reloading advice is a lack of judgement on my part. Further to that with any reloading data that I read on the Internet that catches my interest I always start 10 percent less and work up from there. You should too.. Good luck and safe loading.
 
takman74 said:
The data used for my load is from Barnes #3 manual page 390. The XLC data was used by the Barnes factory when the first TSX bullets came out. Because they were new and no data was available at the time I was told by the factory to use the XLC data as the TSX with the cannelure rings will produce similar CUP pressures to the XLC. I did find it interesting however that the new manual shows loads that are significantly reduced. With that said I shoot 80 grains under a 168 TSX with a federal 215m. I have never had a sticky bolt or any signs of pressure in my Sako 75. Is this a warm load yes it is. This shoots sub MOA out of my rifle and I'm happy with the terminal performance on game. Like eagleye states each rifle is different and in hindsight recommending a warm load to a person looking for reloading advice is a lack of judgement on my part. Further to that with any reloading data that I read on the Internet that catches my interest I always start 10 percent less and work up from there. You should too.. Good luck and safe loading.
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Very well spoken, my friend!!
That load obviously works well for you, but others need to be cautious, since there are always some who will just load away and shoot.
I once had a #1 Ruger in 300 Win mag that shot best with the 180 partition chased by 77 grains of IMR 4831....too hot for most rifles, but it worked great in that Ruger. I generally recommend one start at about 71 grains and work up.
FWIW, those old Barnes XLC bullets were pretty slippery. :D
Regards, and safe shooting to all. Eagleye
 
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