303 and 7.62x54 bullets

Military bullets are steel core steel jacket, same as in Czech surplus. They will ruin you M44 barrel after 1000. This is why this s**t is so cheap.

military bullets are also NOT steel core, unless they are Armour Piercing specific. Normal ones are steel coat over lead core.:)
 
not denying this is true , but if so ive never heard it mentioned anywhere or on any posting like this or similar groups..............any references sources we can look up ?

And who would be interested in informing you?

TULA 91/30 2,330 round's down tube since I have owned still put's them in a 3" group.

What year of manufacture?
 
Why ####in' worry about wearing out a $20 barrel on a $200 rifle? If it's true, who gives a crap? Buy another cheap ass rifle when it's wore out and a load more surplus ammo and have at her!

Unless it's a safe queen, shoot it til it dies.
 
There was a change in doctrine during the first days of WW2 and the Russians stopped using quality steel, because an average soldier only fired a few dozen shots before getting killed anyway.


I have never heard of that but it is interesting.. Where did you hear that from, and was that true of all small arms?
 
f**k me if I will ever share a piece of useful info on CGN again.

I would not question the usefulness of your input, svt-40, and the info you provided sure made the discussion pick up pace. I guess it's simply the way in which some of it was presented that some readers weren't comfortable with.

We all know that gun owners are sensitive people.

;)

Lou
 
Military bullets are steel core steel jacket, same as in Czech surplus. They will ruin you M44 barrel after 1000. This is why this s**t is so cheap.

Czech surplus is copper jacketed steel core, the steel core does not come in contact with the rifles barrel, and copper is way softer then steel.
 
If you're anal enough to worry about the poossibility of prematurely wearing out your $20 barrel using surplus ammo then you should reload with high quality modern copper jacket/lead core bullets or buy commercially available ammo.

SVT-40, the information you presented while informative, is of little consequence.
 
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It is plated steel aka bimetal.
H; Canam, --- just trying to get this all right, --- I have four M44,s, Polish, Hungarian, and a Russian, I also have a lot of Czech steel core ammo, that is coated, plated or as you say is " Bimetal ". By firing this ammo in these M44,s am I going to ware out the barrel in around 1000 rounds or so, or speed up the ware a lot more, than say using copper jacketed soft points, if I could find any ??? Any information would be very much appreciated, ---- Thanks. :confused:
 
Have you actually cut them?

Yes I have.
Also a simply test is to take a magnet to it.

It is plated steel aka bimetal.

If it the ammo I'm thinking about it is still waaay softer then the hardened steel of the inside of a rifle barrel.

Take a bastard file to the bullet tips and see for yourself.

Methinks this planned obsolescence idea is yet another one of those internet myths...

Same as military ammo designed to wound not kill (total BS).
And milsurps being built less accurate (you would never be able to qualify out of boot camp with said rifles in any period in history).
 
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If it the ammo I'm thinking about it is still waaay softer then the hardened steel of the inside of a rifle barrel.

Take a bastard file to the bullet tips and see for yourself.

Methinks this planned obsolescence idea is yet another one of those internet myths...

Same as military ammo designed to wound not kill (total BS).
And milsurps being built less accurate (you would never be able to qualify out of boot camp with said rifles in any period in history).
Yes, I am well aware. Check my posts above. Bimetal jackets cause little, if any, added wear over gilding metal. Some theories suggest less wear.
 
We're a tough crew here at CGN and that's mostly a good thing. There's lots of folklore out there and fortunately it will quickly get challenged. If the best you can do is support your claims with "I saw it on the Internets", you'll be eaten alive and rightly so.

The "buying reloading components from the US" has been discussed dozens of times. You can't just have the seller stick them in a box and mail them to you.
 
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