.303 British lower powder charge safe

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Hello, I have been reading that a low power charge could be unsafe and would blow up a rifle? I am looking at taking the 123 grain bullets out of the 7.62x39 since I have thousands. Was going to just use the powder in the case and try to measure and figure out what’s in them. Is that not enough powder or do I need to use the 2.8 CC dipper as minimum amount.


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You can do a simple swap, velocity will almost certainly be all over the place IME. +/-400fps is what I saw with Czech ammo. If it's SEE you are worried about, don't.
 
Secondary explosive effect. Something sometimes rarely seen in large cannons and used as an excuse by some people that have blown up their guns.
 
OP, I've done this for years without any issues and so have hundreds of other people. There is enough powder in those surplus 7.62x39 rounds to fill the case to a non dangerous level IMHO.

If your really concerned with SEE, go to your local fabric shop and get a couple of square meters of Dacron or similar fiber. Cut it into 1cm squares, which is easy because it's appx 1cm thick.

After pouring in the surplus powder, insert a square of fiber, to hold the powder against the primer. This serves two purposes and is a practice I follow myself.

I haven't been worried about SEE, but as mentioned, inconsistent burn rates can and do create accuracy issues. By holding the powder back against the primer port, you get a consistent burn/initial ignition. It also alleviates any chance of SEE.

You need to be careful, not to use a square of fiber that is to large. It can cause a bit of fouling.


One other issue with the surplus powder in the x39 is that it isn't very consistent from lot to lot, sometimes even in the same lot.

Both Chinese and Soviet x39 surplus is loaded with a spherical or "ball" type powder that is almost identical to AA1680. It's often found in bulk, labeled WC680.

It's a pretty versatile powder and if you have enough, it can be used for several other cartridges as well.

Higginson's used to sell it for under ten dollars per pound and about half that, when they cleared out their remaining stock.

Because this powder isn't commercial "cannister" grade powder, it often varies slightly in burn rates.

Such rounds make for very laid back practice rounds. Don't expect stellar accuracy out of any of them, especially if you're going to utilize the surplus bullets as well. They are slightly undersize and the FREEBORE is far to long at best
 
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Hello, I have been reading that a low power charge could be unsafe and would blow up a rifle? ....

There are many very low powder charge loads that are perfectly safe, using shotgun or pistol powder (fast burning) in various rifle cartridges. I use a charge of Unique powder to blow 7mm Rem Mag brass into usable 458 Win Mag cases. Others do similar from 300 Win Mag cases. We are talking less than 14 grains loads. Many reloading manuals list them - they have been pressure tested and are perfectly safe to use. However, every one of the loading manuals on my desk (6 or more??) has warnings to NOT go below the start loads that they list for every powder / bullet / cartridge combination. I do not know for sure about the SEE phenomenon, but I do believe that over pressure can be created by loads of slow burning powder that are too light. The loading manuals list a brand of case, a primer, a bullet and a weight of powder that they tested and the pressure was within SAAMI standards. If you chose to ignore reloading manual information - basically fill your boots!!! - but you are "out on your own"
 
Speer says SEE isn't a thing in small arms and my own testing confirms it. I hardly tried every powder out there but it was quite a lot of testing. Somewhat ironically I was using some older sporterized Lee Enfields. The explanations guys have are usually absurd, the primer heating the powder too much or running along the top and burning too fast. There is no way to burn powder faster than to pack it against the primer like you would with full charges.

I would bet big money most SEE blowups are guys unable to admit fault for double charging fast powders.
 
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