.303 Surplus. Why Cant Canadians Get This Stuff?

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Cruising the interwebz again and see this American site has Greek .303 surplus for sale. With the Greeks looking for any kind of cash how is it Canadian importers are not onto this? https:// www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=3932&idcategory=
 
Its as rare as rocking horse poo over here too! Most people here buy the PPU/Privi Partizan stuff (its pretty good) and reload the cases as its good brass.
The Greek stuff is good if you can get it.
 
US importers can take the entire quantity the surplus seller can offer them. He doesn't have to worry about selling small amounts to Canadian (or indeed British) importers who will only take a little because that's all they can sell.
 
I am also looking for surplus .303.Any ideas where to get some???
There are probably a half million .303 rifles in canada.Surplus ammo should sell like hot cakes.
 
Yes, well if you drove to Maine and bought ammo Stateside you'd be breaking U.S. law.
That link doesn't work. It's incomplete.
libertytreecollectors.com is a collector's site. The "Greek" .303 ammo is W.W. II vintage made by Kynoch. The shooter stuff they sell is Prvi.
 
sunray said:
Yes, well if you drove to Maine and bought ammo Stateside you'd be breaking U.S. law.
That link doesn't work. It's incomplete.
libertytreecollectors.com is a collector's site. The "Greek" .303 ammo is W.W. II vintage made by Kynoch. The shooter stuff they sell is Prvi.
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Right. I forgot about that. Canadian law says I can bring in up to 5000 rounds for personal use. US law says I can't bring any ammo out. How the heck did the good old US of A get to be LESS free than Canada about anything firearms related??
 
Mk VII said:
US importers can take the entire quantity the surplus seller can offer them. He doesn't have to worry about selling small amounts to Canadian (or indeed British) importers who will only take a little because that's all they can sell.
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This.
The huge US market is like a vaccuum cleaner, sucking up whatever it can.
The only stuff we are likely to get is stuff that cannot be brought into the US for whatever reason.
--Danish Lend-Lease Garands (Lever Arms sold a container or two for $150 each 20 years ago)
--Steel-core 7.62x39 (we have LOTS of this)
--any Chinese made arms and ammo (LOTS )
--Russian semi autos (SVT are REALLY expensive in USA)
--"non-sporting" rifles over 50 cal. (PTRD unavailable in USA, sold for only C$1500 ten years ago)

We can only hope that the mythical Korean Garands DO NOT get approval to return to the USA.
 
The Greek government, as well as being broke, is ridiculously incompetent when it comes to selling stuff that they own (if they know they own it - not a joke). Which dealer was it that recounted seeing crates filled with new Springfields (arsenal crates, unopened) going off to the smelter. Enough to make a gun nut cry, and criminal given Greece's financial mess - or maybe a symptom of it.
 
enefgee said:
The Greek government, as well as being broke, is ridiculously incompetent when it comes to selling stuff that they own (if they know they own it - not a joke). Which dealer was it that recounted seeing crates filled with new Springfields (arsenal crates, unopened) going off to the smelter. Enough to make a gun nut cry, and criminal given Greece's financial mess - or maybe a symptom of it.
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Methinks the "symptom" diagnosis is the correct one.
 
sunray said:
Yes, well if you drove to Maine and bought ammo Stateside you'd be breaking U.S. law.
That link doesn't work. It's incomplete.
libertytreecollectors.com is a collector's site. The "Greek" .303 ammo is W.W. II vintage made by Kynoch. The shooter stuff they sell is Prvi.
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There you go again. Making up stuff as you go along.

I have a half crate of Greek surplus 303 left and it most definitely is not WWII vintage and it most definitely is not made by Kynoch. It looks to have been made in Yugoslavia and has 74 date stamps. They are Berdan primed though and use some sort of ball powder. They are very good as far as consistency and accuracy are concerned. If he could get it Can Am would be all over it. Mind you if they can get a quick turn around and a quick profit in the US that is likely where it will all go. There just aren't enough Canadian milsurp shooters to overcome the supply and shipping costs over the long periods of time it takes to warehouse and sell the stuff here. I really wonder how many shooters call him up asking if they can purchase ten rounds at a time??
 
bearhunter said:
There you go again. Making up stuff as you go along.

I have a half crate of Greek surplus 303 left and it most definitely is not WWII vintage and it most definitely is not made by Kynoch. It looks to have been made in Yugoslavia and has 74 date stamps. They are Berdan primed though and use some sort of ball powder. They are very good as far as consistency and accuracy are concerned. If he could get it Can Am would be all over it. Mind you if they can get a quick turn around and a quick profit in the US that is likely where it will all go. There just aren't enough Canadian milsurp shooters to overcome the supply and shipping costs over the long periods of time it takes to warehouse and sell the stuff here. I really wonder how many shooters call him up asking if they can purchase ten rounds at a time??
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Back when the yanks were OK with private exports of ammo, I got a crate of Greek made .303 ammo.
Headstamp is HXP, and it is beautiful stuff, probably the best surplus .303 I have seen.
I wish I bought a LOT more of it!
 
that is tracer.

The issue with NRCAN is timing. NRCAN takes time to authorize a product. The deals are only available for a few days, hence Canada loses them.
 
The current surplus being sold in the U.S. is Greek HXP I believe.

We have had this in Canada before many many moons ago. NRCAN must have it on their list as inactive.

So could an innovative vendor look at getting some for the .303 Brit fan club?

Or am I missing something?
 
CODFan said:
The current surplus being sold in the U.S. is Greek HXP I believe.

We have had this in Canada before many many moons ago. NRCAN must have it on their list as inactive.

So could an innovative vendor look at getting some for the .303 Brit fan club?

Or am I missing something?
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It is likely all in the US now
 
tootall said:
Back when the yanks were OK with private exports of ammo, I got a crate of Greek made .303 ammo.
Headstamp is HXP, and it is beautiful stuff, probably the best surplus .303 I have seen.
I wish I bought a LOT more of it!
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That makes two of us. I bought two different lots and you couldn't tell the difference between either of them even though they were made two years apart. They weren't cheap though but they came in very nice steel containers with adequate handles and great lip seals under the lids.

To bad Can Am can't bring it in because of regulatory issues. I hadn't heard of the time constraints before. He did mention that a lot of the stuff he brought in stayed in the US for quicker more profitable turn over.
 
The Liberty Tree ammo mentioned in the OP link is this:


Product Details
This offering is for 1 box of our 303 British Surplus Ammunition. Maker marked from Kynoch with a WW2 era production date, marked G2 for tracer but doubt they will still trace much. Boxes are fragile white cardboard and were repacked by Greece in the 1950's. Brass cased with a FMJ projectile. 48 rounds per box.

Some of these cartridges will have neck spits present from age.

Several boxes available.

Collector Ammunition Advisory: This is live ammunition, vintage and offered for it's collector value or components only. Much of this is many decades old and may have been stored under imperfect conditions. Please understand this is not top line stuff and may not be reliable or fire at all. There is no manufacturers warranty and is offered as found as is.

Ammunition terms apply, copy of drivers license or FFL required, mailed, emailed or faxed copy ok.

Shipping cost will be added to the order, UPS ground signature from Maine, if you need a quote please inquire
 
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