.308, 00 buck, or slug for grizzly?!

[canadian hunter312]

having never shot a 45-70, how is the recoil compared to shooting a 12 gauge with rifled barrel and 3" sabots?

i can unload my 870 pretty quickly with good accuracy so i might just try this out

 

[Boomer]

Felt recoil is a subjective question. Much depends on the weight of the gun, the shape of the stock, and it's fit to the shooter. The loads one might encounter for the .45/70 can vary greatly, a factory .45/70 (405 gr at 1300) is similar to a .30/30, but a heavy handloaded .45/70 can be objectionable. If you can shoot a light slug gun with 3" Federal slugs without loosing focus on the job at hand, you can probably tolerate a heavy loaded .45/70.

 

[sealhunter]

I had some pretty hot loads in my 45/70 GS

The recoil remonded me of shooting 3" slugs out of my old single shot baikal (full choke)

 

[JonnyBender]

Stay out of the bush.




JonnyBender

 

[Camp Cook]

Only a city slicker would make a comment like that...

 

[723723]

Over 8300 views DiSmAnTLeR (anyways it's good for an early morning laugh)

 

[sealhunter]

The last bear I shot was huge! 450 Marlin makes em crumble..

 

[purple]

You gotta love these bear defence threads.
I'm taken back to an Outdoor Life bear hunt story in the early '60s (always mandatory in every issue) where somebody had taken a poke at a grizzly with a whatchamacallit magnum of some sort. The enraged bear shrugged off the hit, put the hunters up a tree sans rifle, and then went over and distainfully voided his bowels on the offending magnum.

 

[philthygeezer]

Thankfully, I'm not a bear magnet. But I've encountered a few. Here's momma and her 'curious George' adolescent in the foreground. It was a beautiful evening, after the bugs were mostly dead.

 

[hvmetalhead]

for close defence i would go with a pump shotgun loaded with slugs and buck.

i would also conciter teh 45-70. lever action it hits hard and its a hell of a bullet.

 

[canadaman30]

Remmy 7600 carbine 30-06

 

[H Wally]

Just my 2C but buy a drilling. Slug in the left barrel, buck in the right and .308 underneath. Problem solved.




You're welcome by the way.

 

[mlehtovaara]

It amazes me that there are still people advocating buckshot. I wouldn't even use buckshot for deer if I had a choice. Buckshot is people only if you ask me.

 

[Toomanyguns]

Whats wrong with a few tinkerbells, pepper spray and a camera? Failing that I'd use my goto deer caliber.

 

[Camp Cook]

Problem is most of us here aren't tinkerbells and know how to stand up for ourselves and others...

 

[Toomanyguns]

Problem is most of us here aren't tinkerbells and know how to stand up for ourselves and others...

I'm referring to the tinker bells that can be attached to your person, not the type of person. It certainly does take a brave sort to stand up to a big, bad bear.

Wait until you get to see a 15 year old prime boar with the hide removed. The size and structure of the bones, dense muscle mass, thick fur, and substantial skin thickness may convince you that a shotgun is one of the worst weapon choice.

 

[mlehtovaara]

Here is a break down of alot of rounds and how they stood up to testing for the specific purpose of bear defense.

http://www.fs.fed.us/pnw/pubs/gtr152.pdf

 

[Toomanyguns]

Nice article. Thanks. I like the 375 because it will still do the job after passing through brush or a tree. Might even be able to drop 2 bears with one shot. Mature cubs can be real dickheads. lol.

 

[X-fan]

Here is a break down of alot of rounds and how they stood up to testing for the specific purpose of bear defense.

http://www.fs.fed.us/pnw/pubs/gtr152.pdf

This info is more than 20 years old.
High performance bullets were not tested in many calibers, because for most calibers they weren't yet available.

Trust me the 460Wby with a 500grain TSX is no slouch!

 

[mlehtovaara]

yeah I was thinking the same with the 45/70. Handloads or Buffalo Bore would be a huge difference. Regardless this is for basic factory ammo. I don't think much has changed there.