blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- A blue part of Ontario
Just pick a well constructed 180gr bullet. It will be fine.
308-220gr in the thick stuff?
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Actually, provided it is not driven too fast, it performs very well. Ask anyone who has used it in the 30-40 Krag, especially, or the 308 Win as the original poster is considering,
One of the current great Brown Bear men, Phil Shoemaker, w ww.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com, will tell you it works well in the 30-06, too.
Ted
Mount Sweetness
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Southern Ontario
I believe in it to a point, I do think a 12ga 300gr Lead Slug can bust some brush with the animal close behind. It just feels right to me.
A great deal depends on the specific bullet. I have a book on my shelf written by famed African PH John Kingsley-Heath. He wrote that one of his favourite loads for leopard was a .30-06 with a 220 gr. bullet, because the bullet would not exit, and spoil the pelt.
"Certainly when used on leopards with a 220-grain bullet, in nearly all cases the bullet comes to rest under the skin of the leopard on the opposite side to that from which it had entered"
Unfortunately he never specifies exactly which load he was using.
One of the members on here complained of mediocre penetration from a .30/220. I think it was H4831, but I could be mistaken.
Of course, a 220 gr. Nosler partition is a horse of another colour, and I'm kind of curious how a 220 gr. Woodleigh would hold up.
No doubt you are right. During the years i was guiding up here, I heard disappointing reports from guys using the 220 Hornady, Sierra, and Silvertip, as to how well they penetrate. Everyone seemed to think the 220 Remington factory Core-Lokt worked well.
The 220 Partition certainly is a great game bullet! I would not fear any animal in NA with that bullet loaded in a rifle I was able to handle well.
BTW, it was a Hornady 300 gr that I was using on the unfortunate brush moose mentioned above.
Ted
The 220 Partition certainly is a great game bullet! I would not fear any animal in NA with that bullet loaded in a rifle I was able to handle well.
BTW, it was a Hornady 300 gr that I was using on the unfortunate brush moose mentioned above.
Ted
If you want to ensure good penetration, a premium 180 or a standard 200 would be my choice.
As for brush busting, forget it. I have seen a number of good tests published that all had the same result. I tried to run a test one year using our old Christmas tree. Many bullets blew up on hitting a branch. And I have had some hunting disasters where bullets hit branches before the animal.
As for brush busting, forget it. I have seen a number of good tests published that all had the same result. I tried to run a test one year using our old Christmas tree. Many bullets blew up on hitting a branch. And I have had some hunting disasters where bullets hit branches before the animal.
Yes, I once wrote on one of these posts about being disappointed with the penetration of standard 220 grain bullet in a 30-06.
I told of an instance of seeing a big buck mule deer standing looking at me at about fifty yards. I aimed right at the white spot on his chest and he just collapsed at the shot, an old CIL Dominion cartridge with a 220 grain soft point bullet. The blood was squirting out the entrance hole like water from a garden hose hose. My first thought was what a gory job it was going to be in dressing the buck.
Much to my surprise, the bullet never penetrated the diaphragm, into the innards!
The debate about what bullets go through brush better is an old one and I have not been much convinced by some of the "experiments" I have read about.
Surly the video above is suspect in its methodology and results.
I think a good 180 grain bullet would be your best choice based on what you have described as your needs.
Surly the video above is suspect in its methodology and results.
I think a good 180 grain bullet would be your best choice based on what you have described as your needs.
