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I got my new (to me) 308 bolt rifle home the other day. I haven't had a 308 Win rifle in the house since I sold off my TRW M14 six or seven years ago.

I found a nearly new Savage Precision Carbine that someone was desperate to get rid of because they had gotten a reload stuck in the chamber. Dunno any of the details but I polished the chamber and threaded the muzzle for a brake and put the rifle back together and she seems fine. I am particularly chuffed as I got it for about $300 less than new and apparently it only had about 50 rounds through it. :)

Luckily I kept all the dies etc so I can reload ammo for it. Only bad thig is i only had heavy bullets and slow powder left over from the 30-06 that got sold a few years ago.

Hoping to get a load worked up and get out and see how the rifle performs. The ony scope I had was a Bushnell 10x mil dot which will get replaced with a Sightron 16x mil dot as soon as I can find the funds.
 
Cool!
I know the heavy grain 223 is the new 308. :) I love 223 but the 308 has the advantage that you can tell when you pull the trigger whilst wearing ear protection. :D

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drache said:
I had a Savage PC in .223! Decent guns! Only problem I had was trigger was set WAY too light from the factory.
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WHAAAAT? That is crazy talk. I love a light trigger. All my triggers can be measured in ounces.

I was wondering if the trigger on this rifle had been adjusted by the previous owner as it seemed much lighter than I expected from a factory trigger. Anyway, I love it how it is. The Sav Accutrigger is much better than the OEM Remington unit.

Funny thing, a friend just got himself a new 700 Varmint in 223 and was raving about the trigger till I let him try mine. Apparently the 700 trigger is only good till it is compared side by side with something good. :)
 
Suputin said:
WHAAAAT? That is crazy talk. I love a light trigger. All my triggers can be measured in ounces.
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The only problem with a light trigger is:

If the trigger is too light on the PC (and some other savages) and if you try to shoot and reload too fast, the light trigger somehow triggers something and the gun "locks down" and you won't be able to pull the trigger. You will then have to cycle the bolt again but slower to get rid of this trigger lock.

I don't know whether it's a glitch in the design or a safety feature but it happened to me twice.

As for the PC, if Epps would have had a PC in .308 in stock I would have ordered it instead of the FCP-SR.
 
drache said:
The only problem with a light trigger is:

If the trigger is too light on the PC (and some other savages) and if you try to shoot and reload too fast, the light trigger somehow triggers something and the gun "locks down" and you won't be able to pull the trigger. You will then have to cycle the bolt again but slower to get rid of this trigger lock.

I don't know whether it's a glitch in the design or a safety feature but it happened to me twice.

As for the PC, if Epps would have had a PC in .308 in stock I would have ordered it instead of the FCP-SR.
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Thats the accutrigger stopping the rifle from firing when slamming the bolt around. The trigger will not fire until the accutrigger paddle is depressed. You need to be gentle with very light triggers
 
supernova said:
Thats the accutrigger stopping the rifle from firing when slamming the bolt around. The trigger will not fire until the accutrigger paddle is depressed. You need to be gentle with very light triggers
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Oh I know you need to be gentle. But I was putting my rifle to the extreme to write a review about it. And working the bolt too fast locks the trigger rock solid, even the paddle couldn't be pressed.
 
It's designed that way, I had to read the little piece of cardboard that came with the rifle to find out. It is a bit annoying to have the whole trigger unit lock up tight because you chambered a round to fast.
Denis
 
This one is not mine but it looks the same.

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I think the pic I chose is just a bit small. Mine is very digital as well.

Hoping to get out and try it this weekend. Weather is looking crap so maybe some indoor load development will have to suffice for a test run. I also have a new 17 Fireball to try so some range time is def in the cards.
 
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HibouAttentif said:
It's designed that way, I had to read the little piece of cardboard that came with the rifle to find out. It is a bit annoying to have the whole trigger unit lock up tight because you chambered a round to fast.
Denis
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Well then.....this lovely lil piece of engineering should referee the " Savage vs Remington trigger argument" pretty easily.

Classic case of "safety" engineering.
It's a firearm trigger....its supposed to go bang when you press it....NOT decide whether you meant it to or not... or lock up the gun in case you really didn't mean it.... just make it go bang.
I touched it...I'LL deal with the consequences.

The next generation of triggers will be even "better".
You'll need to submit a request to fire...the computer will process the request and determine whether the decison to fire is prudent...then after a warning signal and saftey scan it'll go bang!! LOL
 
terez said:
Classic case of "safety" engineering.
It's a firearm trigger....its supposed to go bang when you press it....NOT decide whether you meant it to or not... or lock up the gun in case you really didn't mean it.... just make it go bang.
I touched it...I'LL deal with the consequences.

The next generation of triggers will be even "better".
You'll need to submit a request to fire...the computer will process the request and determine whether the decison to fire is prudent...then after a warning signal and saftey scan it'll go bang!! LOL
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Actually in this case it's not something from the Safety Nazis; it's not like (e.g.) the short-lived "feature" that GM had for part of a model year in the 1970s, where the car's ignition would not crank unless your seatbelt was connected)

Savage uses a simple "2 lever" trigger design (as do most factory triggers, e.g. Winchester, Remington etc). Most 2-lever single-stage trigger designs, if set to minimal sear engagement (to reduce creep) and light pressure, can become apt to release from rough handling (eg manipulating the bolt roughly, hitting/dropping the action once it is closed and cocked).

So for their Accu-Trigger, they added a Glock like "safety lever" (as in "rifle safety", not "Safety Nazi") which will prevent the mechanism from firing unless this safety lever is pulled (which it is, as soon as you put your finger on the trigger; but not until then).

The trigger "locking up" from rough bolt handling etc is simply this safety mechanism in action. Without it you'd either have to put up with a heavy creepy trigger, or an unsafe trigger, or need to add $100 or more for a more elaborate trigger design.
 
Went and did some load development on the weekend. I was happily surprised to discover this factory rifle is a solid 1/2 to 5/8 moa shooter. Better yet it produced those groups effortlessly. Of he five loads I tested, three of them produced single hole groups.

The best loads were pushing 125gr Ballistic Tips at around 3100 fps with no pressure signs.

So it seems this rifle was a very good buy. :)
 
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