308 AMAX bullet in 30-06?
- Thread starter dfraser
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Seeing as .30-06 Springfield uses .308" diameter bullets, YES, without a doubt. The fact that you ask this question shows how new you are at reloading and I have to say please buy and read any of the good reloading manuals. I can recommend the Lyman reloading manual 49th edition.
270 totheend
270 totheend
I second that
Yes thanks for recommending books,
the 308Win, 308TC, 308Marlin are the same diameter bullets, but are not interchangeable. Thought I would ask about the 30-06 since it is the same diameter, the interchangeability is not mentioned in the books.
Regards,
the 308Win, 308TC, 308Marlin are the same diameter bullets, but are not interchangeable. Thought I would ask about the 30-06 since it is the same diameter, the interchangeability is not mentioned in the books.
Regards,
Donny Fenn1
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Uhh, all of the cartridges you list use 308 bullets.
You seem confused between bullets and loaded rounds.
You seem confused between bullets and loaded rounds.
Barnes_270
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Wait, are you asking if the bullets are interchangeable, the assembled cartridges are interchangeable, the reloading dies are interchangeable, or the load data are interchangeable?
All of these cartridges use a .308 caliber bullet. I believe the 308 Marlin can be reloaded using 308 Win dies, perhaps someone else can comment on that (edit - some googling indicates that the 308 Marlin Express uses unique dies). Beyond that you'll need to clarify what you are asking. I'll also second the suggestion to get a good reloading guide - the ABCs of Reloading is a good one.
nowarningshot
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While any cast or jacketed bullet of .308 diameter would be usable in the 06, many weights and designs are not appropriate or intended for that caliber. For example a typical 170 RN bullet or 160 FTX intended for a 30-30. Typical bullets for 30-06 would be a cup and core, monometal, or premium controlled expansion design between say 130 and 220 grains. Commonly people use 150 to 180 grain, because of the intended use of the 30-06, ballistics and terminal performance on game.
Initially developed as a target bullet, the frangible amax is also now used as a long range hunting projectile. Its strength in terminal performance is that it will open at lower velocities after a projectile has shed speed at long range, better than a traditional or premium design. Typically it breaks into several large fragments that then impact major organs. Its weakness is that at close range and high speed, should it encounter major bones such as the shoulder socket it may "blow up". In other words it fragments violently making a very wide/shallow "slat wound", with little penetration, wounding, or trauma to major organs.
http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/Wound+Database/.30+cal+-+Hornady+A-Max.html
The link talks about wounding from various Amax projectile. If you search in the same site, it will give you ideas for different projectiles wounding performance in different calibers.
Initially developed as a target bullet, the frangible amax is also now used as a long range hunting projectile. Its strength in terminal performance is that it will open at lower velocities after a projectile has shed speed at long range, better than a traditional or premium design. Typically it breaks into several large fragments that then impact major organs. Its weakness is that at close range and high speed, should it encounter major bones such as the shoulder socket it may "blow up". In other words it fragments violently making a very wide/shallow "slat wound", with little penetration, wounding, or trauma to major organs.
http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/Wound+Database/.30+cal+-+Hornady+A-Max.html
The link talks about wounding from various Amax projectile. If you search in the same site, it will give you ideas for different projectiles wounding performance in different calibers.
Please be very careful in your shooting, and I would suggest educating yourself so you don't have a preventable accident.
There are two bore sizes for .30 caliber or 7.62mm bullets (projectiles).
ALL North American built rifles and much of Western European rifles will have a .308" bore. That means they use a .308" bullet. The only exception to this rule is the .303 Brit which uses the larger .312" bullet.
The Eastern European rifle makers use a .310 - .312" bore and thus require a .312" bullet.
Having said that it is perfectly safe to use a .312" bullet in a .308" bore. The soft lead/copper projectile will simply swage down to the smaller bore size.
When it comes to cartridges the various .30 cal or 7.62mm are NOT interchangeable.
ALL North American built rifles and much of Western European rifles will have a .308" bore. That means they use a .308" bullet. The only exception to this rule is the .303 Brit which uses the larger .312" bullet.
The Eastern European rifle makers use a .310 - .312" bore and thus require a .312" bullet.
Having said that it is perfectly safe to use a .312" bullet in a .308" bore. The soft lead/copper projectile will simply swage down to the smaller bore size.
When it comes to cartridges the various .30 cal or 7.62mm are NOT interchangeable.
Northman999
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The bullets for those cartridges ARE all interchangeable.
Are you sure you are not confusing the word "bullet" with "cartridge"?
A "bullet" is part of a "cartridge", but is not a cartridge.
Like a "transmission" is part of an "automobile", but they are not the same thing and not interchangeable.
Something is not adding up here...
This quote leads me to believe you are talking about loaded ammunition. If this is the case, 308 is NOT interchangeable with a 30-06. Except in certain cases it is best to only use the caliber of ammunition your firearm is chambered for.
Hi guys,
Thanks a million, for all your input!!!
I have been loading and shooting 308Winchster for a while now for my SavageFCP-K. I have this 30-06 Winchester 670 sitting in my gunsafe that I only use store bought boxes of 30-06.
I am entertaining the thought of reloading 30-06 now too. I am confirming if I can use the 308AMAX 178gr bullets that I currently use for my 308Win reloading in the 30-06 cartridges as well. The Cabelas reloading expert said that I cannot use them. But something tells me that I can, so I asked here.
Please let me know if I can use the bullets, or if I have to buy other amax type for the 30-06.
Regards
Thanks a million, for all your input!!!
I have been loading and shooting 308Winchster for a while now for my SavageFCP-K. I have this 30-06 Winchester 670 sitting in my gunsafe that I only use store bought boxes of 30-06.
I am entertaining the thought of reloading 30-06 now too. I am confirming if I can use the 308AMAX 178gr bullets that I currently use for my 308Win reloading in the 30-06 cartridges as well. The Cabelas reloading expert said that I cannot use them. But something tells me that I can, so I asked here.
Please let me know if I can use the bullets, or if I have to buy other amax type for the 30-06.
Regards
The cabelas reloading expert eh?
Your 30 calibre 308 178gr hornady amax bullets are perfectly suitable for your 30-06. Provided you load them into 30-06 cases with the appropriate amount and type of powder and to the appropriate overall length. I think your cabelas reloading expert should read some books. And no offense to you at all, just advice, maybe you should read a little more as well.
Hmmmm. For an "expert" that guy hasn't got the first clue what he is talking about. Any bullet that will work in a 308 will also work in a 30-06.
For use in a standard bolt action hunting rifle, yes any .308 bullet will work. For hunting you'll probably want something in the 178-190gr range. If you want to shoot out of a semi, and especially a Garand, you will need to do further research. For example in my Garand I'm using 150gr, and different load data. But, I can take my Garand-loaded 30-06 cartridges and shoot them out of the bolt no problem.
Your load data books will have a LOT of information not just for the specific cartridge, but also generally talking about reloading which you might want to review.
Finally, remember to start on the low end of the data for new load testing.
Your load data books will have a LOT of information not just for the specific cartridge, but also generally talking about reloading which you might want to review.
Finally, remember to start on the low end of the data for new load testing.
