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Hello all been playing around with hornady 168gr bullets in the Amax and BTHP was wondering recommendations on a similar flying projectile effective on whit tail under 100 yards.
Thank you in advance

Brian
 
308Win is far more powerful than needed for deer at 100 yards. Our hunt camp came to the conclusion that the solution was to load only 180 gr bullets. Any hunting bullet that groups well. This did two things: the lower velocity reduced meat damage. The same load became our moose load.
 
308 win? 100 yards? Whitetail? Pretty much any .308" bullet known to man. 150 to 180 grain bullet in any standard cup and core bullet will do, Hornady Interlock, Speer Hot-cor, Sierra Gameking, Remington core-lokt, winchester psp, etc.
 
I literally love the 150 Scirocco at 308 velocities on deer.
Stays together, doesn't damage a lot of meat, and kills well.

Don't expect to recover it from a broadside shot though!

I'm sure the 165 Scirocco would work well also.

Regards, Dave.
 
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As I don't have Eagleye's knowledge and experience but I do use these bullets frequently.I will go to the grave endorsing the Swift Scirocco's.

Probably the the most underrated projectile out there for on game performance as well as accuracy AND ballistics.

I haven't loaded in .308 but a few 7mm chamberings as well as .270


Eagleye said:
I literally love the 150 Scirocco at 308 velocities on deer.
Stays together, doesn't damage a lot of meat, and kills well.

Don't expect to recover it from a braodside shot though!

I'm sure the 165 Scirocco would work well also.

Regards, Dave.
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I was curious about this as well, though I was looking at Speer, mainly because I got their reloading manual with my RCBS kit.

MetalMike mentioned the Hot-cor bullet, but I was curious about the Hot-cor vs. the Grand Slam or DeepCurl. The hot-cor looks nice and has a high BC to boot at 180 grain, however, I was looking at the Grand Slam bullets. While it has a lower BC than the Hot-cor or DeepCurl, I liked the fact that it had the soft tip and I assume more likely to mushroom out on impact.

With .308, i'm curious. Will the GS bullet be a worse round to use on medium game like deer because it can cause more internal damage than a standard Hot-cor? I have this nagging feeling that the GS might do too much damage to smaller game, since the ballistics and energy can still be good for large game up to 300 yards.
 
I use 165 gr. Sierra Game Kings. I don't load them too hot and I get 3/4" to 1" groups at 100 yds. I've never needed more than one shot to drop my deer and that particular bullet seems to perform well in several different rifles that my friends shoot.
 
cheier said:
I was curious about this as well, though I was looking at Speer, mainly because I got their reloading manual with my RCBS kit.

MetalMike mentioned the Hot-cor bullet, but I was curious about the Hot-cor vs. the Grand Slam or DeepCurl. The hot-cor looks nice and has a high BC to boot at 180 grain, however, I was looking at the Grand Slam bullets. While it has a lower BC than the Hot-cor or DeepCurl, I liked the fact that it had the soft tip and I assume more likely to mushroom out on impact.

With .308, i'm curious. Will the GS bullet be a worse round to use on medium game like deer because it can cause more internal damage than a standard Hot-cor? I have this nagging feeling that the GS might do too much damage to smaller game, since the ballistics and energy can still be good for large game up to 300 yards.
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The Speer Grand Slam is designed to have the same terminal effect as the Nosler Partition (the GS was originally a dual core bullet, but was changed into a bullet with a heavier tapered shank area and a ternary alloy poured-lead core), so it has the expansion characteristics you want for deer 'n stuff but has much more weight retention for the heavier game as well. Great bullet for deer/moose/elk and from what I hear from field reports, and cheaper than the partition. I plan to use it one of these seasons after I develop a nice 30-06 load, but it should be ideal in your .308. If anything i would expect it to cause less meat damage because of the better controlled expansion over the hot-cor/interlock/etc.

The Deep Curl is something I have used in my aught six, and accuracy was really impressive. They just take a compressed lead core and chemically electroplate a copper jacket onto it. Cheap, consistent, and effective. Holds together really well, I've seen pictures of these things where the lead is literally fused to the peeled copper even after heavy expansion. So it's like an inexpensive version of an accubond (but without a boat-tail/ballistic tip).

edit: basically grand slam is Speer's premium bullet for all medium/big game, and the Deep curl is their bonded option for all medium/big game, depending on which type of bullets you prefer.
 
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Thanks guys, think the interlock 165 gr. I am now only using imr 4320 powder and have developed a great load at a lower node so was looking for a fast expanding projectile close to my 168gr. May but a wanted add to trade some BTHP or a-max for some so if you see this and have something I would be willing to trade 20 for 20

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Edit: I'm grouping 3/4" or less at 100 so if it was a safe shot I could get up to 150 almost 200 on the stand i have set up but thought the choice would still apply. not like I'm in the west and can see my dog run away for 3 days.
 
Ganderite said:
308Win is far more powerful than needed for deer at 100 yards. Our hunt camp came to the conclusion that the solution was to load only 180 gr bullets. Any hunting bullet that groups well. This did two things: the lower velocity reduced meat damage. The same load became our moose load.
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From my experience, I'm in agreeance with this...I'll only add that I prefer round nose 180's, not those pointy fella's
 
I'll be different here - my vote is for the 110gr or 130gr TTSX. Fast, flat shooting, devastating terminal performance. The 110gr out of my 308 did a number on my spring black bear this year, and it's very effective on blacktails.
 
Picked up some game kings 165 gr , traded a fellow cgner. Any one shooting these with 4320? My 168 gr BTHP love 41.5 gr. if not i do have some varget it's a 20" barrel any suggestions on starting point? My manual is telling me a huge range in powder and would like some advice from experience.

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I used 180gn partitions lots for deer ( also backup moose gun loads ). Plenty of killing power without the shot up meat. Just clean straight through. On another note....trying 165gn hotcores this year....just cause I need an excuse to do load development and wanted to try them.
 
safetyalwaysfirst said:
Picked up some game kings 165 gr , traded a fellow cgner. Any one shooting these with 4320? My 168 gr BTHP love 41.5 gr. if not i do have some varget it's a 20" barrel any suggestions on starting point? My manual is telling me a huge range in powder and would like some advice from experience.

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My reloading manual says 42 grains as a start point up to 45 as max load for the 4320. Personally, I'd load 5 rounds each at 42,43, and 44 grains. When I get to the range I'd shoot for grouping and find which load I liked best. That's when I'd load a bunch and dial in my glass for that load. I shoot the 165 gr. Game Kings on top of H380 in my Ruger M77 Hbar. It produced a one-hole, dime sized 4 rnd. group at 100 yds. and I've nailed a lot of deer over the years with that load. I find that both the soft point and the hollow point boat tail Game Kings give me the same accuracy. I'm actually in the process of working up loads for the same bullet with Varget. I'll let you know how they work out.
 
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