.308 hmmm,

At what range would you take a moose with a .308 you are competent with

  • 100 yrds and less

    Votes: 40 5.1%

  • 200 yrds and less

    Votes: 222 28.1%

  • 300 yrds and less

    Votes: 315 39.9%

  • 400 yrds and less

    Votes: 213 27.0%
  • Total voters
    790
I have first hand knowledge of moose dying at 400 yards and beyond from a well placed 308 Win bullet
 
So I'm thinking, why the need for a different calibre if the .308 is good to 400? (unless you want to shoot beyond tha0)
Simply because we can I suppose.

Basically. if .308 is just fine to 400 yrds in the hands of a competent shooter for moose, caribou, ... then there isn't a "better" rifle for the job right?

If you suggest there is a better rifle than the .308, then you're saying that this "better" rifle is compensating for the skill of the shooter.

I think there are many "different" rifles, but the "better at killing" is given far too much debate.
 
Omega said:
I have first hand knowledge of moose dying at 400 yards and beyond from a well placed 308 Win bullet
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365 was the longest I saw one die. 45" rack, 180gr. factory load out of a BLR....no pics of course :ninja:.


Im a newb so I wouldnt shoot anything much farther than 200ish.
 
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sealhunter said:
I think there are many "different" rifles, but the "better at killing" is given far too much debate.
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I agree 100%

that being said, given the option between a 308 Win & 300 Wby Mag, when bullwinkle is standing 1/4 off, I'd be reaching for the 300 :D
 
sealhunter said:
Basically. if .308 is just fine to 400 yrds in the hands of a competent shooter for moose, caribou, ... then there isn't a "better" rifle for the job right?

If you suggest there is a better rifle than the .308, then you're saying that this "better" rifle is compensating for the skill of the shooter.
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That would depend on your definition of 'better". If more velocity is "better", than any of the 300 magnums would be better. Just how much better is the basis for much debate.


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400 yards in a 308 is pushing the envelope for what most bullets will expand at reliably. With a 150 gr bullet, its like 1900 fps, with a 165 gr, 1800 fps. Some sleek 180's will hit 400y with these speeds, but the average soft point will hit 400y going only 1700 fps, I wouldnt expect alot of expansion at that speed.

the extra speed of a 300 ensures expansion at long range. that's why it would be "better"
 
most bullets are designed to expand down to 1800-2000 fps, exceptions being a Nosler Ballistic Tip which should work down to 1600..but I wouldnt want to shoot a moose with a Nosler BT @ 100 yards with a 308! let alone 300 Mag

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todbartell said:
400 yards in a 308 is pushing the envelope for what most bullets will expand at reliably. With a 150 gr bullet, its like 1900 fps, with a 165 gr, 1800 fps. Some sleek 180's will hit 400y with these speeds, but the average soft point will hit 400y going only 1700 fps, I wouldnt expect alot of expansion at that speed.

the extra speed of a 300 ensures expansion at long range. that's why it would be "better"
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Due to these expansion issues, a 400 yrd shot with the .308 probably isn't ethical I take it.
 
depends on the bullet, but it is for sure pushing the edge. Like I said in my original post, with a good 150 or 165 gr bullet, it can be done. Ideal no
 
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