hvmetalhead
Regular
- Location
- St. Paul AB
I like them both. I personally hunt using a Tika t3 in 30-06. it is a good all round bullet and you cant go wrong
.308 or 30.06 ?
- Thread starter Jive Turkey
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We'll it's been almost two months, did you buy one yet???? 30-06 is my preference just because of the bullet selection and the history(for some reason that is an issue to me).
I was in the same delema when I bought my first hunting riffle. I had three different guns in mind in three different calibers (.270,.308,30-06). Basically works out to 9 different combinations. What it came down to was when I got in the store, I asked what was in stock, out of my 9 I had in mind they had one, a Rem 700 in 30-06 (think they had one of the others I had in mind aswell). What made the deal sweeter was it was the limited edition dm lss which someone had ordered and decided not to pick up. They gave me a smoking deal on it. Both calibers are good, pick the gun you want and see what is in stock and go from there. you'll be happy either way.
I was in the same delema when I bought my first hunting riffle. I had three different guns in mind in three different calibers (.270,.308,30-06). Basically works out to 9 different combinations. What it came down to was when I got in the store, I asked what was in stock, out of my 9 I had in mind they had one, a Rem 700 in 30-06 (think they had one of the others I had in mind aswell). What made the deal sweeter was it was the limited edition dm lss which someone had ordered and decided not to pick up. They gave me a smoking deal on it. Both calibers are good, pick the gun you want and see what is in stock and go from there. you'll be happy either way.
- Location
- Cornerbrook, NL
The two rounds have so much overlap in ballistic performance, either or will be a fantastic choice. THe two rounds when compared to many others are so close.
- Location
- North Thompson, B.C.
Ho - leee!!
As my GOOGLE says when I misspell something; did you mean to say 130 grainers?
With all respect, just wondering.
- Location
- Eastern Edge of the Foothills
Yeah, that's quite a load. I tend to load hot, but I'm not getting my 180's up that fast. Care to share your recipe?
rooster22
CGN Regular
I know enough to know you can't get a 30-06 in a lever... easily.
powder burner
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Alberta, Canada
why would you need a 180gr bullet to go that fast?
blasted_saber
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- A blue part of Ontario
Browning disagree with you
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=003B&cat_id=034&type_id=009
rooster22
CGN Regular
So I stand corrected.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
That's pretty funny, point noted. I will be doing a fair bit of target shooting to get comfortable with my new rifle and then use primarily for hunting after wards.
I know a few ppl with both caliber rifles. I will have to get a couple boxes of each ammo and see if they would like to go target shooting. I am so torn between both calibers my head is spinning. I like the idea one poster had to just flip a coin but I will wait and see.
Now, I need to figure out a good bolt action to get once I pick out the caliber. More research to do
My choice is the 308 in the Winchester M70 in Blue or SS, also the Kimber 84 and the Remington Model Seven in shorter lighter packages.
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I have found with my limited experience with bolt actions that short action rounds produce less felt recoil with very little drop in performance, and in my opinion greater powder efficiency. A friend I used to hunt with that has since moved away thought the .270 Win as the be all end all. Gives me hell for buying a 7mm-08. Even though they have slight difference in groove diameter, they use similar weight bullets. His Tikka T3 w/ 24" pipe sent 140 grain bullets over the chrono at 3100 to 3200 fps. My Ruger Frontier sends a 140 grainer out the front door at 2900 to 2950 fps with a 16.5" barrel. That rifle, as well as everything else chambered in .270 Win seems to want to pound me into next week, whereas the 7mm-08 I can shoot all day. Not the same thing, but similar I think.
Take it or leave it, I'm a big bore black powder guy anyway.
You seem like a well spoken, and easy going type of guy. So when I imply that you must be very mistaken when you say you had 140gr bullets out of a 7mm-08 with a 16.5" barrel doing 2900fps it is only a matter of concern for your safety. Are you carrying a wooden mallet to open the bolt in the field with you?
If you don't have a 34" barrel you aren't safely doing it either. There is a reason they created the 300 Weatherby. So numnutz with '06s don't blow themselves up trying to get 400fps more than max out of their Parker Hales. What an ignorant statement.
- Location
- Eastern Edge of the Foothills
I think the fact that he hasn't come back and posted his '3200 fps' recipe speaks volumes. The fastest anyone should expect a .30-06 to send a 180 gr bullet is 2850 fps. And that's only possible with the right powder/primer/bullet combination, and is usually right at maximum. Under the same conditions the best a .308 win could expect to do is about 2650 fps. Is the 200 fps difference a big deal? To me its enough to tip the scales to .30-06. For others it isn't. To each his own. But I seriously doubt there's a safe way to send a 180 gr bullet at 3200 fps out of a .30-06 via handloading.
Now the Hornady Light Magnum and Nosler High Energy factory loads will get over 2900 fps in my Rem 700 with a 24" bbl.
Now the Hornady Light Magnum and Nosler High Energy factory loads will get over 2900 fps in my Rem 700 with a 24" bbl.
Sam Fadala was able to use the Federal HE loads to get 3000fps out of a custom 26" barrelled 30-06. But even he said that was with technical powder loads that pushed the limits. Or course legi0n is telling the truth
That's because 2850fps is the max you can get out of a 30-06 with a 24" tube. Steady boys he'll come back with his cork-guns blazing! :-D
Not enough case capacity, no matter what type of powder.
Well, if you have read my other posts, I suspect my new Beta Chrony is a bit off.
It registers 2650fps for 180gr bullet over 52.3gr H4350 and 3200 over 58gr of the same.
Now, after all these measurements, some kid hit one diffuser rod and I doubt I can claim warranty.
I will try though.
But if it proves to be accurate, you'll have to live with it.
look me up before replying.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
52.3 gr @2650
58 gr @ 3200
A 550 fps/20%+ gain with 5.7 gr. of powder. I think your chrony has issues.
