Looking at a rifle that already has 3000-4000 rounds down the barrel. I don't think I've ever met a rifle that has had that many fired through it. I've heard that 308 rifles can last 5000 rounds and others have stated up to 10,000 rounds for a precision rifle. What are you thoughts?
308 rifle with 3000-4000 rounds down the barrel?
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It depends on the barrel maker. A Savage F Class can do 10000 and then need changing. A gun with a High end Krieger barrel can do 15000 rounds before needing changing.
What 308 are we talking about?
I bought a new barrel for my 6.5-284 norma after 800 rounds. It still shoots but I have a new "in tube" Savage barrel for it.
What 308 are we talking about?
I bought a new barrel for my 6.5-284 norma after 800 rounds. It still shoots but I have a new "in tube" Savage barrel for it.
Rugbydave on here has a 308 that has about that round count IIRC. He told me at the range about a year ago so I'm not 100% sure I remember correctly. *** correction, just texted him. 5000 round count. I don't know the barrel brand but I'm sure he will chime in here
He's a very good PRS shooter, so you may want to ask him. But if you can get the rifle for a good price and accuracy isn't what you would like, rebbarrelling is simple, just costs money.
308 is pretty forgiving on barrels though. Moderate velocity and 30 caliber so not huge case capacity for caliber.
He's a very good PRS shooter, so you may want to ask him. But if you can get the rifle for a good price and accuracy isn't what you would like, rebbarrelling is simple, just costs money.
308 is pretty forgiving on barrels though. Moderate velocity and 30 caliber so not huge case capacity for caliber.
As an FTR shooter, a 308win barrel is getting tired in the high teens. Take it to a match anywhere close to 2000rds at your peril.
Fired fast in hot weather, I had a barrel that finished a match at 1200rds with more bore wear then its twin at over 2k shot in typical slow fashion
If you want min of rock, a 308win can last a very long time... if you want itty bitty holes, they wear out 'quickly'.
Get a bore scope and check the first few inches of the throat. how bad is the fire cracking? any missing steel?
If you plan on shooting lighter bullets, measure the throat... it can advance far enough that for a lighter bullet, the barrel is warn out. Stuff a 210gr VLD, might not be long enough.
Jerry
Fired fast in hot weather, I had a barrel that finished a match at 1200rds with more bore wear then its twin at over 2k shot in typical slow fashion
If you want min of rock, a 308win can last a very long time... if you want itty bitty holes, they wear out 'quickly'.
Get a bore scope and check the first few inches of the throat. how bad is the fire cracking? any missing steel?
If you plan on shooting lighter bullets, measure the throat... it can advance far enough that for a lighter bullet, the barrel is warn out. Stuff a 210gr VLD, might not be long enough.
Jerry
GA Precision made rifle. Not sure what barrels they use.
The rifle wasn't used for anything such as PRS. But yes, buying a gun online without being able to see it in person is always a gamble.
Seller claims it's still shooting 0.5 MOA at 100 with factory ammo
maple_leaf_eh
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I remember a remark from a Saskatoon gunsmith. One SPRA fullbore shooter had a distinctive cleaning rod stroke. The gunsmith could tell from the rod erosion on the crown how much GH had cleaned that rifle. The point is, round count is somewhat irrelevant when the cleaning routine is more damaging.
The rail is fine for a late clone (Some of the M40A1 rifles used in Desert storm had rails installed) but yes, it would need a different barrel to be an actual clone. GAP just called it the M40A1, it was the original model before they started making actual clones.
Stupid thing is the rifle brand new was like $6000+ but it's just a Remington 700 with a GAP barrel and a mcmillan stock and some gunsmithing to blueprint the action.
Doesn’t have the right bottom metal, swivels…..it’s not clip slotted. price out a new barrel and a refinishing job (what are the parts worth [the McMillan and the trued action]). The initial price doesn’t matter some people buy into the idea of the “brand” and not the product, the fact gap built it shouldn’t matter as many a smith in Canada named or not could do the same work.
3 shot rounds aren’t a group
To make it clone correct would cost a bunch of money. Rem 700 actions are cheap and the stock is still available. What he’s selling can be duplicated for a similar price, zero rounds down range and in the twist you want.
3 shot rounds aren’t a group
To make it clone correct would cost a bunch of money. Rem 700 actions are cheap and the stock is still available. What he’s selling can be duplicated for a similar price, zero rounds down range and in the twist you want.
Match accurate .308 barrels last about 3 seconds worth bullet/barrel time. I usually change barrels before they get to 5000 rounds. I have had barrels shot out as low as 3500 rounds but most will be gone before 5k. I have seen some guys run 8000 rounds and still won matches.
IMHO, barrels have come a long way over the past twenty years.
But not that far.
I guess it depends on the venues you're shooting?
When I was still shooting competitively, once a 308 Win barrel had the first hundred rounds down the bore, it was time to change seating depth a few thou.
Then, keep a diary of round count and accuracy, when the groups started to open up, even slightly, it was time to change seating depth again, then continue doing this until it wasn't working. If push came to shove anywhere between 1500 and 2500 rounds.
The life could be extended, especially on a really good, consistent barrel by cutting off the tenon, recutting the threads/shoulder and rechambering to take out the worn leade and rifling immediately afterward. This works most of the time, but not always.
I don't remember ever getting 5000 rounds out of any barrel I had, no matter how good or who made it.
The best barrel I ever had, lasted just under 4000 rounds and it was made by Lilja. Hart barrels were next for longevity.
But not that far.
I guess it depends on the venues you're shooting?
When I was still shooting competitively, once a 308 Win barrel had the first hundred rounds down the bore, it was time to change seating depth a few thou.
Then, keep a diary of round count and accuracy, when the groups started to open up, even slightly, it was time to change seating depth again, then continue doing this until it wasn't working. If push came to shove anywhere between 1500 and 2500 rounds.
The life could be extended, especially on a really good, consistent barrel by cutting off the tenon, recutting the threads/shoulder and rechambering to take out the worn leade and rifling immediately afterward. This works most of the time, but not always.
I don't remember ever getting 5000 rounds out of any barrel I had, no matter how good or who made it.
The best barrel I ever had, lasted just under 4000 rounds and it was made by Lilja. Hart barrels were next for longevity.
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Dennis spun on a 26” krieger .308 for me years ago. I sold that rifle with around 3600 down… it was still bouncing around 3/4 moa for many loads. I don’t feel like I douped any one and if I am correct, they fella ran a few local matches on it as well. I’m sure it’s safely over 5000 rounds now. I would still go for it if everything else was cool.
Budget for a new one. Won’t be long.
Budget for a new one. Won’t be long.
I'm not really looking for an exact clone. I had one and stupidly sold it years ago. No use building a clone with an MST100 optic and since the price of those are worth about the same as a vehicle it isn't going to happen.
But alas I'll keep on looking for another 308 precision rifle.
If you can find a rifle that will consistently shoot .5 moa at 100 or any range beyond that with factory ammo, jump on it.
That statement from a seller would raise all sorts of red flags with me.
