.308 win, 1000 yard scope?

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Hi there,

I just bought a Remington 700 SPS varmint in .308, hoping to get into some long range shooting. I've shot a fair amount of rimfire (.22 and .17hmr) but this is my first centerfire. I've also got a full reloading kit and I'm going to be starting that as soon as I finish my bench and get shooting.

I have a question about scopes though. I purchased a bushnell 6-24x40mm with side focus and a mildot. Seems like a really nice scope for the price, and has all the features I was looking for. I have burris signature zee rings with the inserts to mount it. After buying it though I looked on the website and it says it only has 40 inches of adjustment range at 100 yards. This has me a little worried... Will this be enough adjustment to get a .308 out to 1000 yards (my eventual goal) assuming I can use the offset rings to get it almost at the bottom of its adjustment range to zero at 100? I'll probably be shooting 168 grain matchings as I've heard they seem to work good in the 12" twist that my rifle has.

The gentleman at the store suggested the much lower priced bushnell 3200 10x with a mildot... which after getting my scope home (3 hours from the store...) and taking a closer look at the bushnell website I'm beginning to think may have been a better option.

Input?
 
The 168 bullet has a greater arc than the 155 palma match and you may have to shim the scope up to reach out to 100yards. Only trial and error with your match load can tell. I shoot .308 in a Rem. 700 heavy barrel with the 155gr. Palma match at 2950fps and I had to shim my Leupold tactical scope to get to 900 metres.
Good luck and enjoy- long range shooting is a true test of a marksman.
My 2cents.
 
Your choice of scope is good with the zee rings. Use the offset inserts to raise the back and lower the front of the scope 20thou.

The 155 Serria palmas are a better long range bullet than the 168's. Many people use 43-44 grs varget under the the 155's.

NormB
 
Yes the zee rings can help you get the adjustment you need, you'll have to buy the offest insert kit, the rings just come with "0" inserts. You can also buy a tapered scope mount, I have two Near tapered rails and they are excellent scope mounts, not cheap though. If your interested just google Near manufacturing, Richard is a helpful fellow to talk to.
 
I run this scope on a couple or three of my rifles, and in 308 I find the 20 thou Burris rings just don't quite make it. Not with the 168 gr bullets, anyway. I really wish that Burris made a 25 thou set, but shimming the rear of the base with the 20 thou rings works ok. Your load may be different enough to get you on at 1000, it's hard to say without actually shooting and trying. - dan
 
Burris 1" rings will go up to 30mins (20 and 10). Some have shimmed to 40 but that is not factory recommended.

The 30mm rings come with 2X 10thou shims. That is all that is offered.

As long as you have 35 to 40mins of up from your 100yd zero, you should make it to 1000yds. Another approach is to have the first mil dot 'up' as your 100yd zero. That puts your full down, center of reticle at 200 to 300yds.

Then you have more up to get out there. You can always use the lower dots to increase your elevation.

Jerry
 
Thanks for the input guys. Based on my calculations with a 5 inch mounting distance (the farthest apart I can get my rings) and a .020 shim in front and back I'll go up 27.5 MOA. That should get me within about 1.5-2MOA of adjusting all the way down to zero at 100 (had to adjust up ~9 MOA to zero without shims), leaving me 38ish MOA of upwards adjustment. Hopefully shooting 155's that will get me out to 1000 yards. If not I think I will do what has been suggested and use my first dot as my 100 yard zero (after bringing the rings a little closer together) or just use the dots for holdover points at longer ranges.
 
Put minus offset rings in the front and plus offset rings in the back. You are better off using the dots for a short range zero, you don't want to use them for long range.
155 Lapua bullets require 2-3 MOA less then 155 Sierra's at 1000 yards. Stuff them on top of 46gr of Varget.
 
maynard said:
Put minus offset rings in the front and plus offset rings in the back. You are better off using the dots for a short range zero, you don't want to use them for long range.
155 Lapua bullets require 2-3 MOA less then 155 Sierra's at 1000 yards. Stuff them on top of 46gr of Varget.
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46gr of Varget :eek:, wouldn't that be a bit hot?? :D
 
BeerBaron said:
Hi there,

I just bought a Remington 700 SPS varmint in .308, hoping to get into some long range shooting. I've shot a fair amount of rimfire (.22 and .17hmr) but this is my first centerfire. I've also got a full reloading kit and I'm going to be starting that as soon as I finish my bench and get shooting.

I have a question about scopes though. I purchased a bushnell 6-24x40mm with side focus and a mildot. Seems like a really nice scope for the price, and has all the features I was looking for. I have burris signature zee rings with the inserts to mount it. After buying it though I looked on the website and it says it only has 40 inches of adjustment range at 100 yards. This has me a little worried... Will this be enough adjustment to get a .308 out to 1000 yards (my eventual goal) assuming I can use the offset rings to get it almost at the bottom of its adjustment range to zero at 100? I'll probably be shooting 168 grain matchings as I've heard they seem to work good in the 12" twist that my rifle has.

The gentleman at the store suggested the much lower priced bushnell 3200 10x with a mildot... which after getting my scope home (3 hours from the store...) and taking a closer look at the bushnell website I'm beginning to think may have been a better option.

Input?
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That scope will work just fine.......as long as it's sitting on top of a 300 Win mag when you try the 1000 yd shooting.:D
 
Ruthless said:
46gr of Varget :eek:, wouldn't that be a bit hot?? :D
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Ruthless, 46 gr of Varget and a 155 bullet in .308 is just about a standard load for Target Rifles shooters that use Varget.
All this talk about scopes for 1000 yard shooting, haven't you guys ever heard of iron sights:p I mean come on, the 1000 yard target is 6X6 feet, it's huge how could you miss it:popCorn:
 
leave the mount

Why dont you get a 20 MOA Unimount.... ? It aint free but it is a good option.

You need about 80 MOA to get to 900m...

That bushnell has 45 MOA adjustment from what I can see (quick search)...
SO, you can get a 20 MOA Unimount and/or a 20 MOA base and you can use the Mil-Dots to get you out even farther. With all that you are 85 + MOA...

BUT..... for all that, you should get a better long range scope. You are really planning to shoot out that far? get a scope that has alot of MOA adjustment...

I have a 65 MOA scope and just got a 20 MOA Unimount. Now I have 85 MOA and a mildot reticle... should work fine.
 
mysticplayer said:
Another approach is to have the first mil dot 'up' as your 100yd zero. That puts your full down, center of reticle at 200 to 300yds.

Then you have more up to get out there. You can always use the lower dots to increase your elevation.

Jerry
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x2 on that.
You said that your scope as a mil dot reticle, use the mil dot to have more elevation.
 
maynard said:
Ruthless, 46 gr of Varget and a 155 bullet in .308 is just about a standard load for Target Rifles shooters that use Varget.
All this talk about scopes for 1000 yard shooting, haven't you guys ever heard of iron sights:p I mean come on, the 1000 yard target is 6X6 feet, it's huge how could you miss it:popCorn:
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I'll keep that in mind,

iron sights and 6x6 feet target, well I was at Mons range and all I can see is a "white dot" at 1000 yards :runaway:


scope: get the scope that has enough MOA or little less so that you can use 20MOA base to give you extra
 
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