308win vs 223 Fast twist, Nightforce & Sightron take a back seat to new scope!

U get what u pay for absolutely but that only goes so far. Shooter skill I think trumps that. Given that most shooters at a certain level given comparable equipment, the better shooter will come out on top. If the March scope is so outstanding then the op should have gotten more v bulls, right thus coming first. What scope was the guy who won using? To put it perspective, Rob Furlong used a fixed 16 power Mark 4 to make his hit at 2430 m. Different set of circumstances though but just sayin.
 
You on the money right there, down to the penny, but some of the Leupold product for the military are outstanding, the glass is Christal clear, not sure if it was different batch they produce for the military, but it was very comparable to NF or better.
 
Where are you guys getting your pricing from? The only online prices I have seen were in Austrailia, and they are quite a bit different than what Kelbley sells them for. I think they are a bit less than the mentioned prices here. Great optics, superb optics in fact.
 
Well, I still have a problem with the 5 year non transferable warranty and the variance from one scope to the next.Some owners have said they were the best while other owners said they received optically inferior scopes. I also understand they are serviced in Japan only( unless this has changed).
MARCH must address these issues if they want to grow( imo).
 
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March sit a top a lot of br winners. I for one am thankful for info on the Internet. Were it not for the internet where else would you learn the good bad and ugly about any of the great we use? March are making mighty fine scopes. A shooting buddy has over 30 of them and has a few nf left to replace. They really are a great scope for some anyhow.

Buddy has a lot of coin.
 
The more you spend on gear the better you have to shoot!

The mental anguish must be torture when things don't go right. :D
 
March sit a top a lot of br winners. I for one am thankful for info on the Internet. Were it not for the internet where else would you learn the good bad and ugly about any of the great we use? March are making mighty fine scopes. A shooting buddy has over 30 of them and has a few nf left to replace. They really are a great scope for some anyhow.

~~~GULP~~~ !!...30 of them ??...WOW!!:eek:
 
Funny, their website redirects to Godaddy. Huh.

And the March website does not indicate they are an authorized distributor. Spartan might want to talk to them about that. For the cost of those scopes, the details better line up.

-- L

Funnier yet is that their Canadian Distributor's business address is a rented postal box at a "mail boxes etc" type shop. Looking at the address on the website leads 1 to believe it might be a bay or suite, not a 5x8 inch box.
Talk about low overhead, but maybe they are "micro machinists":p

I would find it hard to lay down BIG bucks for anything that has a post box as an office, no show room at all so as to handle, see and get fingerprints on products at. But then again I am not a fan of mail order either.

March DOES built a great optic however.
 
There is no official March Dealer in Canada. if you want you can buy direct from kelbley who is the only authorized dealer March has in the Western Hemisphere. If possible kelbley likes to ship at the very least 6 at a time to Canada and they come direct from japan. It may be some dude set up a box, as he bought 3 and has 3 left to sell or something like that. No dealers in Canada carry any stock march, the scopes are all ordered through kelbleys in the U.S. at least this is the info I was last given by March
 
thanks Paul for the good words, well appreciated. I'm the one who owned this pictures (Jonathan).

In the past 2 years i had a Sightron SIII 10x50x60 and a NXS 12x42x56. I wont even compare the March to the NXS as the SIII got better glass. I've looked throught my March side by side with a SIII zoomed at 30x and the target was "moving" all around due to mirage. I was at 60x with the March and the target was stable and real (grouped 1/4moa). Why, i think the contrast is by far better than the SIII optic. In fact, the March eat it up all way around on every level.

When i decided to go with the March scope, i first ordered a 5x50x56 as i tought that 80x was ridiculous and that mirage would kill the image passed 45X. I took the scope out and manage to see, clearly bullets holes at 582yds at 50X ! Then i decided to change it to a 8x80x56 as i was SO impressed with image quality....and never looked back.....and even bought another one for my 6.5x47L.

Last week, in excellent optical condition, i manage to see 2 bullets holes at 900m but you need to have absolute perfect conditions. Every time i can use 80X as the condition allow me to do, i shoot that zoom. It is definitely a big edge AT CLOSE distance as the precision of your aiming can definitely help pulling those V's. Of course, i been practicing my breathing a lot this winter because 80X got a hearbeat going nuts !

As Trevor was so right to say, it does not help at reading the wind and zooming at 80X, you dont see mirage and conditions around you. The proof is that i'm not winning !

I was lucky enough to look at a Bender PMII 10x50 and the March got way more definition, more contrast. I really liked the turrets on those Bender though.

Recently, X-Reload been approved as a Canadian dealer for March and US Optics if it can help someone.

I also read that some scopes were not good, well only thing i can say is that i got 2 March 8x80x56 and they both work fine.

PS. SORRY for my bad english

best regards
 
Well, I still have a problem with the 5 year non transferable warranty and the variance from one scope to the next.Some owners have said they were the best while other owners said they received optically inferior scopes. I also understand they are serviced in Japan only( unless this has changed).
MARCH must address these issues if they want to grow( imo).

in Japan, there is a law that is saying that you need to sell a certain amount of your product before having the right to offer a lifetime warranty. As March is a recent company, they do not meet the requirement yet...but they will for sure. Talk to Jim Kelby about that and dont worry, if your scope have a problem it will be fixed or replaced.
 
Heavy mirage will render the upper magnification of any scope useless, the fact is that you will still be able to use a higher magnification than your neighbor using a x-24 or x-32 or x-42.

As an example, if you are using a 24x scope in heavy mirage you may have to back down to 12x to see clearly (about 1\2 power), the guy next to you has a 32x and has to back down to 18x to see clearly, the guy with the 42x has to back down to 24x........the guy with an 80x will probably still have 35-40x usable in the same conditions.

All scopes will work best at their exact middle magnification and be the worst at their extremes.

'Course ... when you're nicely centered on that V-Bull ad can't see anything else, just which target are you shooting on?? I've seen some crossfires by persons too focused on the center of the target, not necessarily the target they were shooting at (me included) at high magnification.
 
absolutely wright scout, got to be sure where you are aiming ?

While i'm zoomed at 80X, even at 900m, i still cant see the numbers on top of the target.
 
absolutely wright scout, got to be sure where you are aiming ?

While i'm zoomed at 80X, even at 900m, i still cant see the numbers on top of the target.

Target Rifle Fclass on military type ranges is the only shooting game where the competitors target number is not posted on the target. Function of shared target and peep sights I guess. Invitation for scoped rifles to xfire.

NoirmB
 
Just to clarify a bit, perhaps the higher magnifications are best suited to pedestal rests, than bipods? FWIW - I shoot F-TR.
 
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