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My lapua dream came to a sudden end, when I realized the RUM I am tearing apart would not facilitate Bolt wise, and chambering wise a Lapua.

Looking at an alternative, with a 28 inch Lilja Barrel, threaded brake, on a HS percision stock in the 338 edge.

Does anyone have any experience with the edge, accuracy , ballistics comparable to the Lapua.

I do understand it will be still a single shot with 300 grain bullets.
 
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Shortly someone with an Edge will reply. I have built a few for customers but I have not shot one.

The performance and accuracy is excellent and the cost is way less than a Lapua.
 
Jason, what action is the RUM? I don't have an Edge of my own but did order the barrel, should be any day now actually. I have both reamers and a pile of Lapua brass so its tough for me not to get a big action. If I had a Timberwolf action with bottom metal and mag I'd go .338 Lapua AI without a doubt. The Edge is the simple answer and according to Shawn and the guys at LRH it gives up very little if any to the Lapua. I can't get much data from that site other than what a select few post, others seem to less than empirical. I would think a strong action such as the Timberwolf would handle higher pressure .338 Lapua loads better than a Savage or Remington and therefore give better velocity before the reloader stopped working up. The Edge can easily be loaded to full pressure in these factory actions. I see no good reason to go Lapua at all, my vote is either the .338 Edge in a Savage or Rem or go .338 LapuaAI in a Timberwolf.

Best of luck with your build,
Cheers,
Rob
 
I get 2815fps with 338edge barrel is a rock creek 29 inch 300gr sierra 94 gr Retumbo.
group is1/2 inch at 200 yards. H -1000 was good too 93gr same speed but group was 3/4
Rifle was done dy Rick at ATR. I don't get good groups till second fireing.
Kevin
 
JasonYuke said:
My lapua dream came to a sudden end, when I realized the RUM I am tearing apart would not facilitate Bolt wise, and chambering wise a Lapua.

Looking at an alternative, with a 28 inch Lilja Barrel, threaded brake, on a HS percision stock in the 338 edge.

Does anyone have any experience with the edge, accuracy , ballistics comparable to the Lapua.

I do understand it will be still a single shot with 300 grain bullets.
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Accuracy is mostly dependent on how the rifle is put together and the loads used.
I have built many 338 edges and have had excellent results, 1/2 moa accuracy is very common. Velocity with the 300 gr SMKs is over 2800 fps with some reaching just shy of 3000 fps. So compares very closely with standard 338 Lapua.
I am hoping your barrel is at least 10 twist or faster, the 10 twist being about the slowest I would recommend, we use faster twists for our builds.
For what it is worth you CAN convert to 338 Lapua with a bolt change , replacing the floorplate with detachable bottom metal and removing the feed rails.
 
I have two of the 338 Edge rifles Dennis mentioned....There isn't much not to like about the Edge.
The one and only advantage of the Lapua is the brass. Anything else is in someone's imagination.
While Lapua brass is the best there is it is currently over priced. Considereing the cost you can sort, blueprint, and chuck a lot of Rem 300 Ultra brass.
I have a few hundred of the Nosler brass....It looks and specs quite favorably and is again quite a buy compared to the Lapua.

Pressure to pressure Edge is a bit faster than the Lapua, but the reality is that the best standard long range accuracy load is the 300gr SMK over H1000 at 2850-2900fps.

I run a single shot and don't feel limited, but you could run out of the mag box albeit with a significant jump to the lands....Oddly enough the long jump doesn't seem to affect accuracy (Shawn Carlock mentions the same thing).
You can run an AI mag system and bend the feed lips to suite, but the overall length is very short and the idea of giving an AI mag box the Bubba treatment turns me off. I understand Sekins is working on an option.

Dennis does first class work and has my best quality JGS reamer...Give him a shout.
If you are using the HS stock I would have the action and first inch or two of barrel bedded support.

Took me a while to find it, but here is the heavy 338 Edge Dennis built.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234381
 
The TRG 42 comes with a 12" twist and isn't my first choice for 300 SMk's....As Rick mentioned you want a 10" twist or better for those.

The 250 Scenar is probably the bullet of choice in the TRG.
 
One of the obsticals of the Edge is brass life. This is from the owners of the caliber.

First you have to fireform it. No biggie but you are using powder, primer and a bullet.

Second brass life is as low as 3 loadings - there was no menntion of that including the fireforming - but there doesn't seem to be much more than that.

The .338LM has greater brass life. I'm at 6 loadings right now on a batch of my brass.

Sure the RUM brass is cheaper, but add the cost of the fireforming materials, then there's the brass life, the LM becomes more appealing.
 
I don't fireform my brass...I just pass it through the tapered Sinclair thingy....Works well.

I think the guys you are talking to are running the AI version and must fireform. Nice thing about the AI version is brass trimming is kept to a minimum.

What is current pricing for 100 338 Lapua brass?
Just curious.

FWIW I pitch brass after five firings no matter what brand.
 
We were out yesterday and again today with a couple .338 Edges amoung other things. My range is still a work in progress, but 730 yard ( longest current position) groups varied from 1/2 to 1 MOA in 9 mph winds. I try to at least get new target holder or firing position going every trip out, without making it into work. Next will be a 1/2 mile position.
 
The more I think about it, I wonder if there si any benefit to AI'ing or Edg'ing your 338. The reason being is that if you go with a non-standard chamber then you have to fireform all your brass. That means at least 200 rounds down the barrel before you can even start serious load development. Why not run a long-tubed 338 RUM and be done with it, saving the wear and tear on your new match tube?
 
My Edge project has taken a time out but is very close to being finished, so I can't give any first hand info just yet although I don't think you will be dissapointed. As X-Fan says you don't need to fire form for the Edge. With the Remington action you don't have to run single shot with the 300SMK, Seekins makes a mag kit that will feed the 300SMK, they are a bit like hens teeth though. Do some reading on longrangehunting.com, there are a bunch of guys there that run this cartridge with outstanding results.
 
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