.338 Fed hunting handload

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Anyone have any suggestions for a HP or Polymer tipped HP load for the .338 Fed?? It'll be for my Modern Hunter with a 20" barrel, whitetail and elk. Moose as the largest animal.

I'll have to stay under the COAL of the MH mag.

So far I've been looking at the Barnes TSX 210's (bought 50), and there's another 150 of the 185's that I can grab on sale. I CANNOT use soft points...

Thx for any help you can offer.

GGG
 
Don't have a 338FED but I do highly recommend Swift bullets , they have a 210gr polymer tipped bonded and almost same length as your TSX and a good BC.Wasn't sure if you are looking for exactly a HP tipped.

Not how far you are from Lancer but there is great supple there.
 
I have loaded and tested for many hunters that love the Barnes, I still like my lead core for the fact that when the speeds reduce they will expand more than a mono-metal, just my preference of course.
 
Appreciate your input. I don't know much about hunting bullets anymore....

The fed runs slow-ish, so maybe I'm better with the 185 running faster for better expansion??
 
I load my .338 Win. Mag. at .338 Federal speeds. Got it pre-owned already equipped with a muzzle brake that I don't like because the muzzle blast with full power loads is huge!

Excellent accuracy with Hornady 250gr SP-RP bullets (after I installed a fine quality Jard trigger) using a smaller charge of a medium burn rate powder (57 grains) to reduce blast to a tolerable level instead of 70+ grains of a slow burn rate powder.

For a polymer tipped bullet I would expect good results on game using Nosler Accubonds (180, 200, 225, 250 and 300gr available).

http://www.nosler.com/accubond-bullet/

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Wouldn't ya lop the Barrel if the Brake is too much? I didn't read that you were shooting at 500m +....... don't think you'll miss an inch or so.


OP...... Whats a wrong wit the Soft Point???

Get Some Woodleighs that were designed for the Federal......

WL
 
Wouldn't ya lop the Barrel if the Brake is too much? I didn't read that you were shooting at 500m +....... don't think you'll miss an inch or so.


OP...... Whats a wrong wit the Soft Point???

Get Some Woodleighs that were designed for the Federal......

WL

Won't feed in the ATRS modern hunter....
 
The rifle manufacturer recommends polymer tipped or FMJ bullets in this rifle. Something to do with the direct-impingement design. Lead tipped bullets foul the gas system?? Or feed problems??

Feeding problems as far as I know. Pretty sure tight hollow points like TSX, SMK, VLD etc will work fine.
 
The rifle manufacturer recommends polymer tipped or FMJ bullets in this rifle. Something to do with the direct-impingement design. Lead tipped bullets foul the gas system?? Or feed problems??

ahk fair enough, I wasn't aware of the type of rifle you had there, thank our Anti Gun Laws down under :)

cheers
WL
 
OP, I may be presumptuous here but IMHO you are forgetting the advantages of the 338 Federal. The bullet diameter is part of a substantial gain in opening a larger hole.

I made up a 338-08 on a Mauser 98 action many years ago. I removed some of the already slight taper from the case and increased the shoulder angle as well to 40 degrees. I had picked up a custom reamer that was made for another cartridge with very similar dimensions I also had a take off barrel from the rifle that had been chambered for the wildcat cartridge which was a blown out 30.06 called the 338 Jordan.

The shoulder had been pushed forward so that the neck was slightly less than one caliber in length. This substantially increased powder capacity and actually made a noticeable difference over the standard 338-06. The thing was, the felt recoil from this cartridge in a Ruger No 1 was equivalent to the 338 Win Mag. The fellow that made up the reamer and built the rifle was Harry Nicholson who now resides in a little town called Tappen. He used to have a gunshop in Chilliwack BC.

OK, The main difference between the cases is the Federal has a 2.5 degree body taper but a longer shoulder. That's it for all intents and purposes.

I tried all sorts of different weights/shapes/manufacturers bullets in that rifle to find what was a good all around bullet for my purposes. I finally settled on the 200 grain Speer flat base spire point with about 2600fps from my rifle. I used 50.0 grains of W748 over CCI 250 magnum primers in fireformed Remington cases. This is a good recipe for my rifle and is deadly on Deer/Black Bears/Elk and Moose out to 300 yards. The bullet opens reliably out to that range and up close.

This bullet may not be suitable for your purposes but with that cartridge which wasn't designed for long range shooting it works extremely well. The trajectory isn't as parabolic as you might think either.

The Barnes offerings look pretty promising and when I've finally used up what I have left of the Speers, which are already proven, I will likely switch to one of them. I like flat base bullets in this cartridge because they don't take up much powder space and they seem to shoot better in my Gaillard barrel.

Have you tried polishing the ways and feed ramp on your receiver to enable better feeding? Often the fee ramps are to steep or the ways are to sharp. Just a thought.
 
OP, I may be presumptuous here but IMHO you are forgetting the advantages of the 338 Federal. The bullet diameter is part of a substantial gain in opening a larger hole.

I made up a 338-08 on a Mauser 98 action many years ago. I removed some of the already slight taper from the case and increased the shoulder angle as well to 40 degrees. I had picked up a custom reamer that was made for another cartridge with very similar dimensions I also had a take off barrel from the rifle that had been chambered for the wildcat cartridge which was a blown out 30.06 called the 338 Jordan.

The shoulder had been pushed forward so that the neck was slightly less than one caliber in length. This substantially increased powder capacity and actually made a noticeable difference over the standard 338-06. The thing was, the felt recoil from this cartridge in a Ruger No 1 was equivalent to the 338 Win Mag. The fellow that made up the reamer and built the rifle was Harry Nicholson who now resides in a little town called Tappen. He used to have a gunshop in Chilliwack BC.

OK, The main difference between the cases is the Federal has a 2.5 degree body taper but a longer shoulder. That's it for all intents and purposes.

I tried all sorts of different weights/shapes/manufacturers bullets in that rifle to find what was a good all around bullet for my purposes. I finally settled on the 200 grain Speer flat base spire point with about 2600fps from my rifle. I used 50.0 grains of W748 over CCI 250 magnum primers in fireformed Remington cases. This is a good recipe for my rifle and is deadly on Deer/Black Bears/Elk and Moose out to 300 yards. The bullet opens reliably out to that range and up close.

This bullet may not be suitable for your purposes but with that cartridge which wasn't designed for long range shooting it works extremely well. The trajectory isn't as parabolic as you might think either.

The Barnes offerings look pretty promising and when I've finally used up what I have left of the Speers, which are already proven, I will likely switch to one of them. I like flat base bullets in this cartridge because they don't take up much powder space and they seem to shoot better in my Gaillard barrel.

Have you tried polishing the ways and feed ramp on your receiver to enable better feeding? Often the fee ramps are to steep or the ways are to sharp. Just a thought.

Hi - thx for all that. I have no intention of anything past 3-400yds with this setup, so maybe I should have a closer look at the flat based bullets.... looks like I have some reading to do!!
 
At the speeds u will be getting I don't think you will have the Barnes open/expand properly and will get pencil throughs. I see this with short brl 308 with low velocity. Makes for a lot of tracking. I would look at the nosler 210 part or 200g acrabond or even the 200 g hornady interlock
 
I didn't do a lot of testing with mine, but did settle on mid range 8208xbr and a 180 or 200 Accubond. H414 was also a good performer. I couldn't get a variety of 338 bullets locally (180/200 accubonds, and then various 230 and up) at the time so stuck with those.
These were out of a T3
Yes, that round does have a fair bit of wallop!
 
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