.35 Whelen vs .338-06
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i dont when or why but expecting to see the 9,3x62 mentionned by you, Ted or i very soon ...
Ardent
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Boils down to two things for me:
.338-06 gives me nothing over .30-06, as I can load to 220gr there no problem with good velocity.
.35 Whelen is limited on bullet selection, and is closing on .375 territory so I might as well use a .375 and get the extra power and bullet selection.
There is nothing a .35 Whelen will do a .30-06 won't with a 220gr bullet in my opinion, .338-06 even more so.
.338-06 gives me nothing over .30-06, as I can load to 220gr there no problem with good velocity.
.35 Whelen is limited on bullet selection, and is closing on .375 territory so I might as well use a .375 and get the extra power and bullet selection.
There is nothing a .35 Whelen will do a .30-06 won't with a 220gr bullet in my opinion, .338-06 even more so.
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i keep expecting someone to mention the 9.3x62 in this thread too .......
Personally, I'm a convert and a big fan of the 9.3x62, but when you consider the large selection of bullet weights (100gn to 225gn) and types available for
the 30-06, you have have to admit it's a very versatile and impressive cartridge - before you ask, Hornady now makes a 225gn match bullet. However,
when I consider the ballistic performance of the 338 WM with a 225gn, or 250gn bullet, there too I am quite impressed and rightly so. But, if I want one
load to handle anything from Whitetails to Polar Bears, handily, I'm back to the 286gn 9.3mm with an MV of about 2400 fps; what's not to like?
There, I've done it: I brought up the 9.3x62, never mentioned either of the original cartridges in question and contributed 0% to the resolution of said question.
The splitting of hairs may now continue.
the 30-06, you have have to admit it's a very versatile and impressive cartridge - before you ask, Hornady now makes a 225gn match bullet. However,
when I consider the ballistic performance of the 338 WM with a 225gn, or 250gn bullet, there too I am quite impressed and rightly so. But, if I want one
load to handle anything from Whitetails to Polar Bears, handily, I'm back to the 286gn 9.3mm with an MV of about 2400 fps; what's not to like?
There, I've done it: I brought up the 9.3x62, never mentioned either of the original cartridges in question and contributed 0% to the resolution of said question.
The splitting of hairs may now continue.
Ardent
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Personally, I'm a convert and a big fan of the 9.3x62, but when you consider the large selection of bullet weights (100gn to 225gn) and types available for
the 30-06, you have have to admit it's a very versatile and impressive cartridge - before you ask, Hornady now makes a 225gn match bullet. However,
when I consider the ballistic performance of the 338 WM with a 225gn, or 250gn bullet, there too I am quite impressed and rightly so. But, if I want one
load to handle anything from Whitetails to Polar Bears, handily, I'm back to the 286gn 9.3mm with an MV of about 2400 fps; what's not to like?
There, I've done it: I brought up the 9.3x62, never mentioned either of the original cartridges in question and contributed 0% to the resolution of said question.
The splitting of hairs may now continue.
Ha! And for me, one cartridge from Whitetail to Cape Buffalo and everything in between, and I've used it therefore, is .375 H&H. Gets you over all the minimum caliber for species requirements in Africa which the 9.3's don't in many areas. It's also indistinguishable from the 9.3's in recoil, at least for me, and offers far greater component and ammunition availability. I do believe I have a half dozen bullet weights on the reloading bench for the .375- four of them from Barnes and they offer more yet.
A case of .375 will do anything .35 and 9.3 do, 'betterer' to fudge a word.
To begin with, Ardent, as of the last time I looked out the window, I'm pretty sure I don't live in Africa and I haven't seen any Cape Buffalo around these
parts for at least three weeks. But if you want to split hairs where the 9.3x62 and 375 H&H are concerned, then we should really start another
thread and not highjack this one. It would be pointless though, since all know that the 375 H&H is just a cheap knockoff of the 9.3x62; just as the
375 Ruger is a knockoff of the 375 H&H. The irrefutable logic of my argument is that the 9.3x62 came first and is, therefore, naturally superior
in all respects. When you follow this argument to it's natural and historically accurate conclusion you will be led to what is, undeniably (in every
respectable experts opinion), the best projectile for dispatching fur bearing critters: it is a well know and scientifically proven fact that the first
(and therefore best) projectile used to harvest game was a large rock applied to the skull of the unsuspecting fur ball. I mean the B.C. and the M.V.
are atrocious, but the S.D. is absolutely fantastic and so long as the shooter does his, or her part, it'll get the job done. It is hands down the most
popular EVER and components are readily available anywhere.
Later Dude
Ardent while speaking of rules or regulations i doubt it will be a problem with your PH and any scout game if any are coming with you ... at least wont be a problem in Zim or South Africa (they just changed the rules there and never will be a provincial rules now) Namibia i wont take a bet but this is more energy than caliber to qualify there.
when i was living in CAR i never seen a problem about calibers for hunting there but again it may have changed.
so if someone is confortable with a 9,3x62 good if it s a 375 good if it s another caliber good ....
but i doubt from i ve seen in the field that the 375 is better than any other mentionned if it was the case the 378 weatherby will be the top notch .375 calibers .... a 338-06 or 35 whelen is good too and for a good reason it s based on the 30-06 no one can be wrong the 30-06 ...
anyway all the best to all who think the 375 ruger is even better and none mentionned of course .... lol
Ardent
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.35 Whelen falls into a peculiar gap where it's not a .375 mag or something you should stretch into dangerous game territory, and it offers nothing over a 220gr .30-06 in my eyes- you give up SD for bullet weight. When I say .375 territory, almost, I should say it can't do the .375's job around the world though the weights and bullet dia are heading that way, and it also doesn't add anything over a 220gr .30-06. I'm a few good rifles around the world type guy, and can't justify incremental steps in cartridge selections. For me .35 Whelen's a cartridge without a class.
Personally after using the 35 whelen quite a bit, it is one of the very best moose / bear rounds there is out to 250yds.It offers low recoil and a great amount of stomp on big critters.When hunting moose and grizzlies I would take a 35 whelen anyday over a 30/06.
I agree. I have owned and used the 338-06, 35 Whelen, 9.3X62, and 375 H&H. The 9.3 is a 35 Whelen in spades, and for years I have referred to it as a 375 with five in the magazine.
You have to use one of these cartridges on really big game to appreciate just how effective they are.
Ted
You have to use one of these cartridges on really big game to appreciate just how effective they are.
Ted
I've owned a couple whelens and really liked cartridge , the rifles not so much. Had a .375 in a 602 seemed like a lotta rifle and the bolt throw was longer than what I was used to.
I kept a couple 9.3x62's and a couple x57's the rest are long gone now.
I kept a couple 9.3x62's and a couple x57's the rest are long gone now.
The 35 whelen started its own class when introduced. The 375hh and 9.3s weren't popular. American and canadians had the 30-06 and the 405 for north american big game. The whelen came about by offering heavier bullets at respectable speeds to take on grizzly bear and moose and elk. Its a standard length action so it can be made light and still knock down big stuff. It may not be african ready but it wasn't designed for african big game. For its time it was a great round and is still with us. I'm planning on having one built soon for moose and black bear hunting. I hunt in thick cover and I've decided on the 35 because I believe be wrong or not that a 250 gr bullet going 2700fps is better then a 180gr going 3000fps from my 300wm inside 150 yards in thick cover. I have a great love for the 375hh and will eventually buy one once I find one that's fits.
With a properly placed shot either caliber will be effective. The 338 has more bullet selection the 35 is heavier and slightly wider. The 30-06 can kill anything its offspring can but then again its a common round (which isn't a bad thing) but I like to be different and my 25-06 and 300wm cover the gap nicely. Happy hunting on what ever you choose
With a properly placed shot either caliber will be effective. The 338 has more bullet selection the 35 is heavier and slightly wider. The 30-06 can kill anything its offspring can but then again its a common round (which isn't a bad thing) but I like to be different and my 25-06 and 300wm cover the gap nicely. Happy hunting on what ever you choose
9.3*62 was and is still popular but maybe what you were saying was for north american audience because since the beginning of 20th century and we re talking about 1905, it s still a great caliber thanks again mr Otto Bock ... now that it s wave is coming up to here is even better ... while i like the 375 ruger i ll come back for sure on a 9.3*62 ...
