357 sig

dan belisle said:
Keep it in mind when people start talking about voting liberal. - dan
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Our major changes were enacted by conservatives driven by a prime minister who had a personal hatred for firearms. Although they are called the Liberal party they are actually conservative. Doesn't really matter though, Labor (lefties, trade union types) are just as bad.

While firearms regulations are a state responsibilty the federal government gave the states an ultimatum: sign up to the new National Firearms Agreement laws or the federal government will cut off your funding. Several states tried hard to water down the changes but were defeated.
 
AussieNorinco said:
Our major changes were enacted by conservatives driven by a prime minister who had a personal hatred for firearms. Although they are called the Liberal party they are actually conservative. Doesn't really matter though, Labor (lefties, trade union types) are just as bad.

While firearms regulations are a state responsibilty the federal government gave the states an ultimatum: sign up to the new National Firearms Agreement laws or the federal government will cut off your funding. Several states tried hard to water down the changes but were defeated.
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They may have called themselves conservatives, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... The issue we have now is the parties that exist today, and while the CPC are not really our friends, they are the least objectionable from our point of view. - dan
 
I have a glock 31, (full sized 357 sig) 3rd gen, love it, it take 40cal glock 22 mags too, i like the extra power it has over a 9 or a 40, but i like collecting different caliber guns, owning a bunch of 9's or 45's seems boring to me, ammo isn't too bad gun shops carry it, not the big box stores
 
Master-G said:
I bought a .357 SIG barrel for my .40 P226--I really like it. The recoil is not bad--much better than a .357 Magnum revolver, and I find it quite a fun to shoot calibre. I only take it to the range a few times a year so ammo supply is not critical for me. I already had pistols in 9mm, .40 and .45 and just wanted something different.
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Where did you find the .357 Sig barrel. Being a hotter round does it cause any more noticeable wear on your .40 pistol? I guess if it's used infrequently it wouldn't make much of a difference.
 
latenight said:
Where did you find the .357 Sig barrel. Being a hotter round does it cause any more noticeable wear on your .40 pistol? I guess if it's used infrequently it wouldn't make much of a difference.
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I picked up the barrel off the EE here. As you surmised I haven't shot enough .357 to notice any real wear. I've not tried .40 and .357 in the same shooting session to see if there is much difference in recoil, actually--I'll try that next.
 
I bought a .357 SIG barrel for my Glock 23 right here on the EE. AWESOME! I want more.

Shooting .357 SIG in the Glock 27 is a hoot. The first couple of shots after fitting the barrel were scary. After that, it was fun.

You have read all the well considered pros and cons. I can only add that the .357 SIG is a laser and I will be buying more of them. Buying a .357 barrel for a .40 pistol is a cheap way to start, a couple of boxes of ammo and you'll be hooked, and on your way to broke but smiling!

What would you rather do: shoot 3 boxes of boring factory 9mm, or one box of a round that wakes you (and everyone else at the range) up and reminds you how fun it is to shoot a handgun?

As to why LE agencies have switched to .357 SIG, they can tell you about penetration and terminal ballistics and all that dry stuff. When you hear the roar and see the fireball, all from your boring old .40, then you'll know why it's popular. Yeah yeah, it works. Now make it go BOOM again!

AND it doesn't hurt your hand nearly as much as a revolver in .357 Magnum firing full house loads. It's as much fun as you can have with a modern autoloader.
 
Some of guys who shoot .357SIG in IPSC just neck down .40 brass - solves the 'hard to find' brass issue. Of course it does add the inconvenience of having to neck down brass.
 
Heddok said:
I thought the resulting brass was .020" too short if you did this ??
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It is......

Unlike rifle cases the 357 sig head spaces off the mouth of the case and not the shoulder.....

Now this doesn't mean it can't be done.

When sizing 40 brass to 357 sig, you have to set the should just a hair forward of where you would set it for factory 357 sig cases so that it head spaces off the shoulder.

Another problem that crops up from time to time is that you don't have enough length on the neck to hold the bullet securely. IMHO the only real,issue with this is if you do have a failure to load a round from the magazine that round is garbage. The projectile could get jammed back into the case and cause a pretty serious pressure problem among others......

Other than that it is a do-able process......
 
I'm actually starting a new build from the frame up with a 1911 357Sig. I'm building it specifically to have something a little different in a 1911 platform and I like the challenge of building something from a bare frame. We'll see how this one ends up.
 
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I thought the resulting brass was .020" too short if you did this ??



Then why not start with 10mm? Oh wait, no nevermind. :cool:
 
I built a single stack 1911 in .357 sig. They are very hard to get to feed from a full mag reliably. After a lot of trial and error, the only mags I could get to work were 10mm mags with a steel follower or the 40 Cal tripp research mags. My experience seems to mirror that of others that have made a similar project. Please let me know how it turns out.



jawsman said:
I'm actually starting a new build from the frame up with a 1911 357Sig. I'm building it specifically to have something a little different in a 1911 platform and I like the challenge of building something from a bare frame. We'll see how this one ends up.
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I have a G22 with a 357sig barrel & a Line Wolff 40/9mm conversion. So I shoot 9mm, 357sig & 40 cal through the gun with little issue.

As for 357sig, I only use resized 40cal brass. As a general rule, I'll use case lube & resize all my 40 cal cases to 357sig on my Dillon 550, as a first process. Basically, just run the case through the first stage (resize & de-prime), like a single stage press. Once I've got my brass resized, I'll load it as I would any other calibre. Once the 40 has been resized to sig, I don't need to repeat this process, only on the first load.

With a Glock & my CZ TS, which are both chambered in 357sig, I need to load short to fit the magazines. This can dictate my projectile choice, but have managed to finf up to a 160L RNFP, that maked IPSC Major 160pf with ease. Probably the critical area is crimping the projectile, so it's firm in the case.

Cheers, Ando.
 
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