375 Cheytac?
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What exactly do you want to accomplish, and how far do you want to shoot?
I've managed to regularly take my 6.5 to 1500 which I think (for me at least) is the practical limit of its range. I was looking at 338 but was wondering if it's a go big or go home sort of situation. Ideally would like to be able to make hits to at least 2k but I may be underestimating the effort or costs involved. I have no ELR expertise whatsoever hahaha
Mystic Precision
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For S&G's, I have taken my FTR rifle which is a 308win and no issue reaching 1 mile. The larger heavier bullet makes it easier to spot vs a 6.5 CM
If you want to see a large assortment of options going to silly distances, search MarkandSamafterwork on the 'tube. They have taken the 308win to 3000yds... further then I care to shoot... and alot of other sets up to way the heck out there.
If you need a magnum, pretty hard to argue with the success of either the 7RM or 300Win mag.
I can't be bothered with big booms that cost a small fortune anymore. I will just dial a bit more elevation and hold a little more into the wind for a fraction of the cost.
This is just for fun isn't it???
Jerry
PS, there is no reason the 6.5 CM can't reach out beyond 1 mile... you just need to use the right bullet.
A mile with most common cartridges is easily achievable. It’s just easier with the big stuff. Especially if you like to go out alone. A 147gr is not the easiest spot your misses. 80-90gr .223 is even harder to see the splash.
Curious as to why you would choose .300 Norma vs 338 Norma?
Bullet variety...accuracy seems to edge out the 338 Norma as well..recoil is much much softer on the 300 as well and as i am not needing energy for killing the 300 inside of 2300 shows better then the 338
Litz appears to feel similar i gather based on what he ran at the Nightforce ELR match. If i had to thump moose or elk at 1500 i may lean towards the 338 bullets but selection and recoil are so much nicer on the 300 or 300 AI Norma...love them both
I have both what do you want to know?
The 338 EnABELR is shooting pretty much 500 fps faster than the 338L (2675 vs 3150 with the same bullets). Brass and Dies are significantly harder to get for the EnABELR, and I expect the barrel to last in the 800 rounds range.
Performance wise the 338E is pulling 6.1Mil/1.2Mil at 1000m with a 10mph full value wind, and the 338L 9.3Mil/1.6Mil.
I'm running 40% more powder with the same bullets to get a 20-25% reduction in wind.
That being said: At the first Valcartier ELR match, I saw one person hit the 2km with a 6mm and it was won with a 284, while the Ko2M Canada was won with a 300 Norma.
So while I enjoy shooting big rifles, experience and ease of management that you get with the smaller calibers is far more important.
I went through this whole process as well. I have targets at 1500 and 1600 yards that I can shoot at daily but they're in cut blocks and spotting misses with 6s and 6.5s can be a real challenge. Decided I would do a .30cal "boomer" on the cheap (by re-purposing a Rem 700 LA) and build a 300PRC. "Build creep" set in and I decided to use a custom action, at which point there was no real added cost to building a .300NM or .338NM/LM. I ended up going with the .300NM mostly because the cost of running it was considerably lower, bullets (I use Berger 220 LRHTs) and brass (Lapua) are about half the cost of the .338 equivalent and ballistic performance inside 2000 yards is actually better. The only place you "lose out" is in energy on target but my load still has over 1000ft-lbs at 1600 yards (in case I ever wanted to take a deer at that range, haha). I have a whole thread on my rig but in a heavy-ish setup (about 21lbs with a bipod and mag) with a 5-port Heathen muzzle brake, it's really tame to shoot and the thing is a laser! From memory it's 11.x mils to 1600 yards (I've shot it out to 1830 so far). In any case, I'm a big believer in the .300NM!
