Nice rifles for sure. One chambered in .375 Ruger with a Macmillan stock would be hard to resist. Several gun makers have invested in chambering the 375 Ruger, and they are selling so well I wonder if Winchester will get into the game at one point? They don't have a proprietary 375 cartridge for bolt actions, so it's a possibility..
.375 group is officially open now.
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Nice rifles for sure. One chambered in .375 Ruger with a Macmillan stock would be hard to resist. Several gun makers have invested in chambering the 375 Ruger, and they are selling so well I wonder if Winchester will get into the game at one point? They don't have a proprietary 375 cartridge for bolt actions, so it's a possibility..
I second that !!
Johnn Peterson
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Amen.
Not that firearms makers won't chamber their competitors cartridges (obviously you can buy a Remington in 300WM or a Winchester in 7RM) but some have vested interests in their own cartridges, especially in a smaller niche market like 375 caliber. so I could see some companies protecting "their" cartridge and only chambering their rifles in their cartridges.
Off the top of my head, major North American firearms manufacturers that have invested in the 375 Ruger are Ruger, Mossberg and Savage. I can see Remington holding out as they have their 375 RUM and WBY as they have their 378 WBY and the excellent 375 WBY (not sure if they still produce 375 WBY rifles anymore though?)
However, there is no .375 Winchester Magnum cartridge (just the 375 Win for lever actions) so they possibly will be open to chambering the superior 375 Ruger cartridge. Hard to say though, as Ruger essentially produced nearly perfect rifles to house their NEW KING. Anything Winchester could do would basically be a Ruger copy, other than a stainless 24" barrel rifle perhaps.
Off the top of my head, major North American firearms manufacturers that have invested in the 375 Ruger are Ruger, Mossberg and Savage. I can see Remington holding out as they have their 375 RUM and WBY as they have their 378 WBY and the excellent 375 WBY (not sure if they still produce 375 WBY rifles anymore though?)
However, there is no .375 Winchester Magnum cartridge (just the 375 Win for lever actions) so they possibly will be open to chambering the superior 375 Ruger cartridge. Hard to say though, as Ruger essentially produced nearly perfect rifles to house their NEW KING. Anything Winchester could do would basically be a Ruger copy, other than a stainless 24" barrel rifle perhaps.
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And what would be a good powder ?
I was going to to go with 45-70 mainly as a working rifle but the hunting photo got me going ,well that and Curiosity
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All Winchester should have done was to make the .325 WSM as a .375. The advantages in rifle weight and efficient, uniform velocities as well as pressures in the .325 make it an accurate beasty. As a .375, the WSM would be a beauty all rounder fer many folks.
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pretty sure that after your ``little`` grizzly you neeed a real RUM rifle ....
The 375 WSM has been wildcattred. Although I agree it would be a great cartridge, I'm not sure how well it would sell rifles. Seems like a real niche handloader cartridge to me.
Ardent
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Winchester has an extremely long history with the H&H, since the beginning of the Model 70. It was one of the Model 70's initial introduction chamberings, and helped propel .375H&H on to become the one cartridge for the world of hunting. The Model 70 offered the .375 Magnum to blue collar sportsmen, and in a package equal to or better on a functional basis than the largely guild and premium guns the .375 called home before 1936. Given the .375H&H fits in a Model 70 (and most other) action without issue, and is markedly more popular and wide spread than the Ruger which is also a direct competitor's namesake, it would be a surprising move. 7mm Rem is several thousand times more popular than the Ruger and not a fair comparison. But Mossberg also put an AR stock and rails on a levergun, crazier things have happened.
It might very well be a surprising move, but Winchester also went well outside of the box when they introduced the WSM cartridges. Winchester certainly isn't against modern development and certainly isn't bound by "tradition." The Ruger case design has many of the attributes that Winchester has used with the WSM line- shorter and no superflous belt.The 375 Ruger is the evolution of cartridges, superior to the H&H in every way.
Ultimately, it's all about rifle sales. As the 375 Ruger is such a popular seller today, Winchester may want to get in on the sales. But there is no doubt that using a competitor's cartridge is an ego blow, so maybe we won't see Winchester doing it, especially as -like I said- most of what they could offer has already been done by Ruger in a very similar action.
bearkilr
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Yet sales of 300 WM surpass WSM by a huge margin, despite the "superfluous" belt.
Surpass, yes, but I wouldn't say by a "huge" margin. Many WSM's are being bought these days. Despite the 300WBy having a much longer head start, 300WSM's are outselling them by a HUGE margin.
Regardless, that doesn't have anything to do with what I'm talking about- which is that Winchester isn't afraid to explore modern cartridges. However, They may not want to chamber their competitors round, despite it being superior to the H&H, and that is understandable.
I hate to deflate you Gatehouse but the rifles available in the Ruger are rifles which didn't have a long enough mag box to handle the H&H. Most of them are economy models compared to the longer actioned versions. Winchester did offer the 375H&H in their stainless gun with that crappy tupperware stock they produced for a few years and as I recall the price was comparable to the other stainless tupperware versions. If you want a rifle to take pride in you have to get one made for the 375 H&H.
neil
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Deflate me? It's common knowledge that Ruger wanted to chamber a .375 in their standard action rifles and not limit themselves to their longer RSM 375 H&H action. This is no great revelation...
In creating the 375 Ruger cartridge, the door was wide open for any manufacturer that chambered a 300WM etc to chamber the 375 Ruger, which guaranteed the success of the 375 Ruger cartridge.
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I like your Alaskan. Very nice. I have a Winchester model 70 in 375H&H but mine is a Super Express.
And to keep it company, a custom job in 375 Chatfield Taylor.
Both of those rifles are beauties Johnn!
