.375 H&H Vs .338win VS. 9.3 X62?

[Johnn Peterson]

She pushes out 300 gr bullets @3050 fps.

I kid you not when I say that head shots are possible at 700 yards with ease. I use 500 ml water bottles for practice at that range. 1 gallon milk jugs at 1000 yards.

Impressive velocity for that weight of bullet. A target for me at that range would have to be more along the size of 50 l. Quite some time back, a video was posted of an Elk shot at 700 + yards. I don't doubt there are people that are capable of pulling off shots like that, but I'm not one.

After watching the video quite a few times, the most difficult variable to contend with I could see is two different wind directions evident, between shooter and target. I didn't call B.S. to the feat but I did question being reliably confident of making such a shot, confident enough to take it. Long story short, I got an invite from some guys in the area that are into that focus of shooting, to join them in a long range shooting exercise. I accepted and asked if I could bring a friend along, hs4570 and we joined up with the guys at the military range in Naniamo.

As I recall, we got back as far as 600 yds and it was an eye opener for me. Effective long range shooting, including reading the wind appeared to be well within the ability of these knowledgeable gentlemen. I was impressed, to say the least, by what can be accomplished by people that know what they're doing and with good equipment. Here are a few pics from that outing.

Part of the group on the line.

One of the hoasts, johnl, on the left, from this site.

And hs4570 in the foreground, who passed away a short while back, taking a shot.

 

[Toomanyguns]

I guarantee that if you are able to lay on the ground comfortably and use good shooting form, you will be able to make a kill shot on a small deer with this rifle at 700 yards on a calm day - ON YOUR FIRST SHOT. It is not very difficult with this type of equipment.

If it is windy we might have to play with the windage a wee bit.

Head up country in early June and we'll go into Mackay and blast a blackie across the valley

 

[Johnn Peterson]

I guarantee that if you are able to lay on the ground comfortably and use good shooting form, you will be able to make a kill shot on a small deer with this rifle at 700 yards on a calm day - ON YOUR FIRST SHOT. It is not very difficult with this type of equipment.

If it is windy we might have to play with the windage a wee bit.

Head up country in early June and we'll go into Mackay and blast a blackie across the valley

PM sent.

 

[Gatehouse]

we re two at least in that case ... lol

the more i met people using it the more im thinking how wise was my choice ...

it s good to be the king 's subject ....

The Alaskan KING is a fantastic rifle and cartridge combo because really, it could be the only rifle you own and not be out of place in 99% of hunting situations.

It is short, compact, powerful and has a 30-06 like trajectory, so it would work great for:

Almost all hunting out to 400 yards

Grizzly defense at short range

Hunting in thick timber for anything

African hunting

It totally displaces the need for a 45/70 "guide gun" and pretty much any other hunting rifle unless you want a ultralight sheep rifle or a predator/varmit rig.

That said, I did take my 300WSM on a sheep/moose hunt because it was a pound lighter than the NEW KING, but I have lots of guns...if a guy wanted to take care of it all with one gun, the KING would be a top choice.

 

[canadaman30]

I'll poke the dog with my .02cents, and go on a limb. I'd take my 450 over my 338 any day. I don't hunt to many places where range is a factor. I still don't own a 375??????

 

[SuperCub]

What is the next hunting trip scheduled for the .375 CT SuperFudd?

Prolley just WT deer hunting this year if I don't get drawn for a moose tag here. Next year is going to be slower at work in the fall, so kinda thinkin' about a moose hunt in NFLD might work.

I still have to pay the taxidermist for sevices and shipping for last year's hunt. My wife is gonna kill me when she sees that thing coming in the front door.

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[SuperCub]

paul,

this is a nice rifle and close in the look of my 375 ruger with laminated stock and stainless steel but mine wasnt a custom just a special run of 93 ....

Those laminated Rugers are about the nicest factory 375 out there. Perfect for hunting here in NA. Too bad they don't put the same handle on the RH model.

even if you cannot before 3 years for big game hunting you can come up again just for fishing ...

The lake trout fishing was awesome out there. Grayling is a lot of fun too.

Here's Ted with his catch and the subsequent shore lunch.

 

[Camp Cook]

Bwhaaa haaa haaa haaa will the braying ever end talk about

The Alaskan KING is a fantastic rifle and cartridge combo because really, it could be the only rifle you own and not be out of place in 99% of hunting situations.

It is short, compact, powerful and has a 30-06 like trajectory, so it would work great for:

Almost all hunting out to 400 yards

Grizzly defense at short range

Hunting in thick timber for anything

African hunting

It totally displaces the need for a 45/70 "guide gun" and pretty much any other hunting rifle unless you want a ultralight sheep rifle or a predator/varmit rig.

That said, I did take my 300WSM on a sheep/moose hunt because it was a pound lighter than the NEW KING, but I have lots of guns...if a guy wanted to take care of it all with one gun, the KING would be a top choice.

 

[Dogleg]

The Alaskan KING is a fantastic rifle and cartridge combo because really, it could be the only rifle you own and not be out of place in 99% of hunting situations.

It is short, compact, powerful and has a 30-06 like trajectory, so it would work great for:

Almost all hunting out to 400 yards

Grizzly defense at short range

Hunting in thick timber for anything

African hunting

It totally displaces the need for a 45/70 "guide gun" and pretty much any other hunting rifle unless you want a ultralight sheep rifle or a predator/varmit rig.

That said, I did take my 300WSM on a sheep/moose hunt because it was a pound lighter than the NEW KING, but I have lots of guns...if a guy wanted to take care of it all with one gun, the KING would be a top choice.

Yep, sucessfully duplicateing something that has been around and doing just that for 100 years.

 

[jjohnwm]

Yep, sucessfully duplicateing something that has been around and doing just that for 100 years.

Now, now, Dogleg, let's be fair. The so-called "King" does achieve this flattering imitation using a short action that allows shaving some tiny fraction of an inch off the total length of the rifle. Combined with the apparent ability to lop an inch or so off the barrel to produce similar velocities, and when you add in the total lack of tradition or class, plus the cachet of knowing that you are using something that nobody else in camp has (or can buy ammo for if needed), and you have quite a package.

When I needed ammo desperately in Africa a few years ago (due to my own admitted stupidity!) the outfitter, when told that it was a .375, suspiciously asked ".375...WHAT?" After being reassured that it was an H&H, he relaxed and commented that it would be no problem...he had merely been worried that it might be something "ridiculous" (his exact word) like a .375Ruger!

It's enough to make me want to go out and buy...another .375H&H, this time in stainless!

John

 

[Tumbleweed]

Bwhaaa haaa haaa haaa will the braying ever end talk about

Yeah, it gets a little old after a while, doesn't it.

A generation back, the guys who bought Edsels used to talk like that. Maybe they figured if they just brayed about them long and loud enough, they'd somehow stop being duds.

 

[Dogleg]

Now, now, Dogleg, let's be fair. The so-called "King" does achieve this flattering imitation using a short action that allows shaving some tiny fraction of an inch off the total length of the rifle.

Yeah, but shortening the barrel one inch makes the shot distance one inch longer. Shortening the action another quarter inch gets that up to a 1.25" disadvantage.

I'm trying to talk myself out of buying one of the new M70s in .375 H&H. Two should be enough, but I can hear it calling me.

 

[medvedqc]

Now, now, Dogleg, let's be fair. The so-called "King" does achieve this flattering imitation using a short action that allows shaving some tiny fraction of an inch off the total length of the rifle. Combined with the apparent ability to lop an inch or so off the barrel to produce similar velocities, and when you add in the total lack of tradition or class, plus the cachet of knowing that you are using something that nobody else in camp has (or can buy ammo for if needed), and you have quite a package.

When I needed ammo desperately in Africa a few years ago (due to my own admitted stupidity!) the outfitter, when told that it was a .375, suspiciously asked ".375...WHAT?" After being reassured that it was an H&H, he relaxed and commented that it would be no problem...he had merely been worried that it might be something "ridiculous" (his exact word) like a .375Ruger!

It's enough to make me want to go out and buy...another .375H&H, this time in stainless!

John

in some countries they cannot have ammos if they dont have the firearms so in that case and i ve seen that whatever the caliber is it may be a big problem ...
the .375 ruger is not that old let s talk about that in 5 years.

so true that im byuing an african too very soon ...

 

[medvedqc]

Those laminated Rugers are about the nicest factory 375 out there. Perfect for hunting here in NA. Too bad they don't put the same handle on the RH model.


The lake trout fishing was awesome out there. Grayling is a lot of fun too.

Here's Ted with his catch and the subsequent shore lunch.

life is so easy that way ...

 

[Toomanyguns]

Did you hear the latest?

 

[Toomanyguns]

Bwhaaa haaa haaa haaa will the braying ever end talk about

His boyfriend is now beaking off about the one he bought.

 

[Winterkrieg]

. . .

 

[jjohnwm]

in some countries they cannot have ammos if they dont have the firearms so in that case and i ve seen that whatever the caliber is it may be a big problem ...
the .375 ruger is not that old let s talk about that in 5 years.

so true that im byuing an african too very soon ...

Now that is something I hadn't heard before. Does that mean if a hunter shows up in camp with an oddball-chambered rifle and has ammo left at the end of his hunt, he can't just leave it behind? I've often read of hunters shooting up all their leftovers at the end of their trip, before leaving, and I always thought that was a thoughtless and inconsiderate thing to do. Perhaps there is a good justification for this?

In any case, this problem would seem to further justify the older, well-established cartridges. The odds are much greater that there will be a camp rifle that can use up your surplus H&H as opposed to a new upstart chambering. It will take a lot more than 5 years for this to change much, if ever.

Let's face it: There are those to whom something new and shiny will always hold appeal, and who will then grasp at any straw to make their new toy seem superior to the old standard. There are just as many others to whom tradition and history are driving forces behind their choices, and they will scratch equally hard to denigrate the new stuff to strengthen their stance.

Let's just accept that, and maybe those of us in the old camp can accept the new guard for what they are...

WRONG!

John

BTW, not a thing wrong with buying a Ruger African. I believe they are coming out in 9.3x62...new, but with class!

 

[Gatehouse]

Yep, sucessfully duplicateing something that has been around and doing just that for 100 years.

The NEW KING is just doing it better, in a better package...

When I needed ammo desperately in Africa a few years ago (due to my own admitted stupidity!) the outfitter, when told that it was a .375, suspiciously asked ".375...WHAT?" After being reassured that it was an H&H, he relaxed and commented that it would be no problem...he had merely been worried that it might be something "ridiculous" (his exact word) like a .375Ruger!

This isn't an issue for me. Because unlike you, I am not stupid.

 

[Gatehouse]

Bwhaaa haaa haaa haaa will the braying ever end talk about

The funny thing is that you had a .375 RUM built that is very similar to a NEW KING Alaskan, and then because of excess recoil you download the cartridge to perform similar to the NEW KING....


ALL HAIL THE NEW KING!